how many hands to provide signficant feeback on play

[Jesse Jersey 0]

How many hands does one need to play in order to have the results/trends be significant. I don't mean just statistically signficant...but how many to show that you are indeed a winning/losing player, crushing the games, etc.?Thanks for the help.

[Kendren 1]

a million is what I've heard.

[allinbluff35 0]

100k probably

[akishore 0]

this is an ambiguous question and it's pretty unanswerable.it's all about certainty, or HOW confident you want to be (confidence interval is the term).if you want 90% confidence, you could probably get away with X number of hands.95% confidence, you'd need more, 99% confidence you'd need much more, 99.99% confidence, a huge sample, etc.aseem

[Guest]

From what I've seen, to get at least general comments (nothing too specific), you need 10k-25k depending on how consistant you consider yourself to stay...i.e., how often you stick to your style. Obviously the more you stick to a standard style, the less hands you need to see a patter, but if you're starting out and trying to find a way to play, you'll need minimum 25k hands.

[psujohn 0]

It also depends on how big of a range around your win rate you want to zero in on. In otherwords if you're -10BB/100 over 3K hands there's probably a decent chance you're a losing player. If you're 3BB/100 over 3K hands there's a decent chance you're a winning player though your actual winrate may be anywhere between 0-6BB/100.If all you care about is are you a winning player or a losing player I'd guess that 3K hands would give you a reasonable basis for estimating. If you're better than 2BB/100 you're likely a winning player, worse than -2BB/100 you're likely a losing player. Somewhere in between - call yourself break even and make up the difference with bonuses.