PrtyPSux 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 just wondering if the same 2-2.5BB/100 standard applies at these 6 max tables or if a good player shoots for more than that since he is playing less oponents? I had never played 6 max till a couple days ago and I could see that postflop skill weighs a bit more than in regular 10 handed games....anyway, just curious. Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 You should be shooting for more playing 6-max. A pretty good player can sustain 4-5BB/100. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 5 max at pokerroom is a fucking joke Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 5 max at pokerroom is a fucking jokeUnderstatement of the day. Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 You should be shooting for more playing 6-max. Â A pretty good player can sustain 4-5BB/100.r u serious? can anyone back this up for me?? (not that I dont believe u chiggle) but thats pretty big...variance seems like it could be a bitch, but I feel the level of play sux at those tables so u can come out waay ahead any given session ( only played 2k hands so far, but thats what it seems like to me) Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 5 max at pokerroom is a fucking jokenever played it, is it worse than party?...Ive played 2/4 - 5/10 ring games on Pokerroom and I thought they sucked, avg pot was like 18 -24 bux at 2/4. Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I've made almost 4BB/100 playing Party 6-max, and I've talked to other people that have similar win rates...I've played a lot of hands, too, so unless I'm on a 50k hand lucky streak, it's sustainable... Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 5 max at pokerroom is a fucking jokenever played it, is it worse than party?...Ive played 2/4 - 5/10 ring games on Pokerroom and I thought they sucked, avg pot was like 18 -24 bux at 2/4.worse IMO Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 I've made almost 4BB/100 playing Party 6-max, and I've talked to other people that have similar win rates...I've played a lot of hands, too, so unless I'm on a 50k hand lucky streak, it's sustainable...nice..Im still on a pretty big upswing I guess Ill find out how I do by the end of the month. Im hardly going to play full 3/6 anymore, it seems like such a waste of time now :-).btw, how many tables do u play for 6 max? Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 5 max at pokerroom is a fucking jokenever played it, is it worse than party?...Ive played 2/4 - 5/10 ring games on Pokerroom and I thought they sucked, avg pot was like 18 -24 bux at 2/4.worse IMOhmmm, I might have to transfer some then. dunno though, multitabling on PR sucks. Link to post Share on other sites
kaisersoze12 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I've noticed the 6 max on party are getting more popular and oddly enough, tightening up. Anyone else notice this. 6 max used to be so simple to win, but now the pots aren't as big because the players seem to me to be playing tighter. Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I've noticed the 6 max on party are getting more popular and oddly enough, tightening up. Anyone else notice this. 6 max used to be so simple to win, but now the pots aren't as big because the players seem to me to be playing tighter.nope, same clowns Link to post Share on other sites
BDPoolie 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'm sorry for being iggnorant about this subject, but can someone please explain what you are talking about when you say: "4BB/100" ? Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'm sorry for being iggnorant about this subject, but can someone please explain what you are talking about when you say: "4BB/100" ?4 big bets per 100 hands played, so if you're playing 1/2 limit and you are making that amount it is $8/100 hands. Link to post Share on other sites
BDPoolie 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 So, what is a good average? I ususally play 1/2/Is 8bb/100 a good average?What is the best way to arrive at this average?Do you wait until you have played 100 hands and then basically look and see what you've won to that point and then divide that by the BB (2, in this case)?So, if after 100 hands, I am up $50, then I have made 25bb/100?How many hands should I play to see a good running average? 10,000?And when I lose, I assume I chalk that up as a negative (-25bb/100)?Sorry for all the questions...one more....What system does one use to keep up with all this? I have been keeping up with my wins/losses using an Excel spreadsheet, which calculates how much I win per hour played. Link to post Share on other sites
kaisersoze12 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 So, what is a good average? I ususally play 1/2/Is 8bb/100 a good average?What is the best way to arrive at this average?Do you wait until you have played 100 hands and then basically look and see what you've won to that point and then divide that by the BB (2, in this case)?So, if after 100 hands, I am up $50, then I have made 25bb/100?How many hands should I play to see a good running average? 10,000?And when I lose, I assume I chalk that up as a negative (-25bb/100)?Sorry for all the questions...one more....What system does one use to keep up with all this? I have been keeping up with my wins/losses using an Excel spreadsheet, which calculates how much I win per hour played.All right here man....http://fullcontactpoker.com/poker-forums/v...pic.php?t=12767 Link to post Share on other sites
allinbluff35 0 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 So, what is a good average? I ususally play 1/2/ 2-3bb/100Is 8bb/100 a good average? not possibleWhat is the best way to arrive at this average? play hands? don't understand the question, to vagueDo you wait until you have played 100 hands and then basically look and see what you've won to that point and then divide that by the BB (2, in this case)? yes, but it is a statistical avg. of 1k's of handsSo, if after 100 hands, I am up $50, then I have made 25bb/100? correct, that would be your current win rateHow many hands should I play to see a good running average? 10,000? 10k you start to see what your avg. would beAnd when I lose, I assume I chalk that up as a negative (-25bb/100)? yupSorry for all the questions...one more.... What system does one use to keep up with all this? I have been keeping up with my wins/losses using an Excel spreadsheet, which calculates how much I win per hour played.www.pokertracker.com Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 5 max at pokerroom is a fucking jokenever played it, is it worse than party?...Ive played 2/4 - 5/10 ring games on Pokerroom and I thought they sucked, avg pot was like 18 -24 bux at 2/4.Very soft. I have a lot of rediculous beats to prove this.I need more hands there though for my stupid long run #'s to come through. I'm still grinding out 3/6 there trying to get to 5k for 5/10, but they also upped the rake so I don't suggest playing there unless you get rake back. As you will get analed at 2/4 and below.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 btw, how many tables do u play for 6 max?i usually only play two at a time because i'm doing a lot of other stuff while i'm playing, but the more the better, IMO.just add tables gradually and make sure you're used to playing X number of tables before adding more. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 chiggles, 4 - 5 BB/100 is possibly sustainable depending on the juiciness of the game, but by no means is it EASILY sustainable.the pokerstars six max games are amazing, and i'm beating them for just a little over 3 BB/100. i feel i'm not maximizing my winrate, though. still, while some experts might crush it for 4+ BB/100 and it might be realistic, it is NOT easy by any means.i can't stress that enough.this is like in a full ring game, it is possible to beat $3/$6 on party for 3+ BB/100, but few players do it, and it's damn tough to do.while you can strive for 4+ BB/100, definitely don't think it's the "norm".aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 chiggles, 4 - 5 BB/100 is possibly sustainable depending on the juiciness of the game, but by no means is it EASILY sustainable.aseemi never said it was easily sustainable. i said a pretty good player can sustain a rate upwards of 4BB/100. i guess i was understating. a really good player can sustain this rate.since i don't consider myself leaps and bounds above other good players, it makes sense that my win rate could be bettered by better players, so since i'm making between 3-4BB/100, a really good player could make more.i never said it was the norm... just something to shoot for.edit: i cannot emphasize enough the importance of game selection in achieving a rate higher than 3BB/100. oftentimes, the difference between a 2-3 BB/100 player and a 3-4BB/100 player is game selection. Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 i can't stress that enough.this is like in a full ring game, it is possible to beat $3/$6 on party for 3+ BB/100, but few players do it, and it's damn tough to do.while you can strive for 4+ BB/100, definitely don't think it's the "norm".aseemahh I was already getting my hopes up...I guess Im up for a huge downswing since Im beating it for 7.5BB/100 in 2k hands. Link to post Share on other sites
Chiggleslap 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 ahh I was already getting my hopes up...I guess Im up for a huge downswing since Im beating it for 7.5BB/100 in 2k hands.Heh. I remember beating it for like 15BB/100 my first 2k hands.If only...Seriously though, don't get your hopes down over aseem's gloomfest.At least strive for 4BB/100. Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 ahh I was already getting my hopes up...I guess Im up for a huge downswing since Im beating it for 7.5BB/100 in 2k hands.Heh. I remember beating it for like 15BB/100 my first 2k hands.If only...Seriously though, don't get your hopes down over aseem's gloomfest.At least strive for 4BB/100.yea..I'll strive for it.......but now im scared! Link to post Share on other sites
BDPoolie 0 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 The site I'm on does not support PokerTracker...So if I want to calculate it manually, I'm pretty sure of the following:((Profit / (Hands Played/100)) / Amount of blind) = bb per 100** "/" = divided byBut, what I'm confused about is, if I play 5 different sessions, at different structures, how do I calculate them together? I think I would still just add up all my sessions, then divide by the number of sessions to get the average, but I'm not sure. Link to post Share on other sites
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