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#1 acesfullmike

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 11:21 AM

1. You have aces on the button, EP a TAG raises and it folds around to you. Do you automatically raise to keep the the over-defending blinds out or call to let the TAG have control of the hand till you raise him on the turn (assuming not a really scary flop). Also, if you do three-bet it and he caps, do you have to put him on kings, queens, or AKs. If so and the flop comes down K, Q, rag and he check-raises the flop where do you go from here. I am assuming a very solid TAG player. What if he calls and after a rag on the turn checkraises the turn? I appreciate any help.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 11:52 AM

acesfullmike said:

1. You have aces on the button, EP a TAG raises and it folds around to you. Do you automatically raise to keep the the over-defending blinds out or call to let the TAG have control of the hand till you raise him on the turn (assuming not a really scary flop). Also, if you do three-bet it and he caps, do you have to put him on kings, queens, or AKs. If so and the flop comes down K, Q, rag and he check-raises the flop where do you go from here. I am assuming a very solid TAG player. What if he calls and after a rag on the turn checkraises the turn? I appreciate any help.
If im playing a solid player and he raises it in EP, I put him on a big hand. Why would I want to just smooth call? You HAVE to three bet to isolate him. Depending on the flop ( say, all unders and no paint ), I just call his bet, to raise him on the turn, OR if theres a two-flush out there I might raise him ( to make him think Im trying to get a free card ), so he can RE-RAISE and I can just call, going for a raise on the turn, which more than likley he will 3-bet if he thinks im on a flush draw and my suit doesnt get there. so generally -1) Isolate 2) figure out the best way to get the most bets out of him3) executethats it lol

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 02:20 PM

dc... do you even play 5/10?

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 02:55 PM

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dc... do you even play 5/10?
yes... why... do you think isolating an EP raiser with AA in LP is a bad play? If so, come play with me. FCP_DCSports on teh party network

#5 looshle

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 05:21 PM

3 bet here every single time. You're missing a bet if you dont and you're letting the blinds in cheaper.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 05:26 PM

OR if theres a two-flush out there I might raise him ( to make him think Im trying to get a free card ), so he can RE-RAISE and I can just call, going for a raise on the turn, which more than likley he will 3-bet if he thinks im on a flush draw and my suit doesnt get there.Not many people are stupid enough to put you on a flush draw after you call and raise the turn.That's thinking pretty optomistically.It's like saying "I'm playing NL, I get AA 5 people limp, and I just call. Flop comes AA5. I bet they dont put me on an ace so all 5 people go all in!! Then I call !!!"You don't really come across the situations you dream about that often.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 06:56 PM

acesfullmike said:

1. You have aces on the button, EP a TAG raises and it folds around to you. Do you automatically raise to keep the the over-defending blinds out or call to let the TAG have control of the hand till you raise him on the turn (assuming not a really scary flop). Also, if you do three-bet it and he caps, do you have to put him on kings, queens, or AKs. If so and the flop comes down K, Q, rag and he check-raises the flop where do you go from here. I am assuming a very solid TAG player. What if he calls and after a rag on the turn checkraises the turn? I appreciate any help.
Mike,3 bet your aces. Don't forget, playing straightfoward and aggressive is often the most profitable way to play a hand. Also, if you post specific hands, you will probably receive more responses.




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Posted 05 September 2005 - 08:27 PM

I appreciate the advice all. Thx

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 09:46 PM

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OR if theres a two-flush out there I might raise him ( to make him think Im trying to get a free card ), so he can RE-RAISE and I can just call, going for a raise on the turn, which more than likley he will 3-bet if he thinks im on a flush draw and my suit doesnt get there.Not many people are stupid enough to put you on a flush draw after you call and raise the turn.That's thinking pretty optomistically.It's like saying "I'm playing NL, I get AA 5 people limp, and I just call. Flop comes AA5. I bet they dont put me on an ace so all 5 people go all in!! Then I call !!!"You don't really come across the situations you dream about that often.
i was just simply laying out situation where you can try to get more out of him then you normally would be able to. I wasn't saying that would happen, i was saying what I would do IF that secnario happened.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 09:20 AM

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OR if theres a two-flush out there I might raise him ( to make him think Im trying to get a free card ), so he can RE-RAISE and I can just call, going for a raise on the turn, which more than likley he will 3-bet if he thinks im on a flush draw and my suit doesnt get there.Not many people are stupid enough to put you on a flush draw after you call and raise the turn.That's thinking pretty optomistically.It's like saying "I'm playing NL, I get AA 5 people limp, and I just call. Flop comes AA5. I bet they dont put me on an ace so all 5 people go all in!! Then I call !!!"You don't really come across the situations you dream about that often.
i was just simply laying out situation where you can try to get more out of him then you normally would be able to. I wasn't saying that would happen, i was saying what I would do IF that secnario happened.
And I would call if someone bet a billion dollars as a bluff into me when I have the nuts. But it's pointless to talk about it if it will probably never happen.

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Posted 06 September 2005 - 09:44 AM

I don't three bet 100% of the time, but probably around 80%. From my experience in 5-10, EP raises often get a good amount of respect. If you reraise a UTG raiser, then you are broadcasting your hand. Now that's not bad most of the time, but I like mixing it up every now and then.The other reason why I don't really fear the blinds (on the rare occassions I don't three bet) is that the EP raiser will likely lead or raise the flop and you can make it three or two back to the blinds, who will be hard pressed to call with anything except premium hands. However, getting aces on the button usually mandates me keeping my mouse over the raise button until I get good information I may be behind.-Matt




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