All_In... 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 in limit play, if u flop 2 backdoors (straight & flush) what are your odds to hit by the river? i don't know how to calculate backdoors.in NL with implied odds, is it more of a 'no-brainer' to call at least to see the turn?' Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 1.5ish outs for a backdoor flush. About 1 to 1.5 for backdoor straights. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzbuster 7 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Doyle wrote the odds you'll turn a flush or straight about 10 to 1 .About 20 to 1 on the river.Best... Link to post Share on other sites
CodyHartman 0 Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 There are many odds calculators out there. Just a few for ya, Cardplayer.com, thehendonmob.com, pocketfives.com, and I think pokerpages.com has one.EDIT: Now that I think about it, these are more of hand vs hand odds. Does anyone know of site that has more #'s like this. Was the Doyle reference about the odds form SS1? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Screwed up earlier...wrote 'odds' instead of 'outs'. Fixed now.But yeah...with both backdoor draws...2ish outs on the flop when figuring out your odds. SSHE addresses this. Link to post Share on other sites
-=BigWorm=- 0 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Here is one easy was of calculating what your odds are after the flop, and it is legit you can do it in your head next time your watching the WPT. Now again these are for AFTER the flop. Its like this, whatever hand u have ie flush draw or straight draw count how many cards will make your hand, and in case of a flush draw if you dont see and cards flipped over or anything assume that all the rest are part of your calculation meaning u see 4 to the flush that their are 9 left. OK sorry heres how it goes its easy take how many cards make your hand your looking for and multiply them by 4 to calculate AFTER the flop to MAKE your hand on 4th street, and if u miss the same for the river but you multiply your outs by 2. this gets u within 1 percent of knowing what percentage that you will make your hand on 4th and the river. Hope it helps Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 As I understand it, the 4x = % rule is the chance that you'll win (on the flop) by the river. Link to post Share on other sites
-=BigWorm=- 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 The 4% turn and 2% river are your percentages to get the cards to make your hand at that point yes. Link to post Share on other sites
MasterLJ 0 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 I use 5% for backdoors as a rule of thumb. Of course it's not dead on, but you can tack it onto your pot odds easily enough. Link to post Share on other sites
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