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set of jacks: bet/call river or check behind? (lhe)


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(9 max, 9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Js], [Jd]. 2 folds, MP1 calls.Flop: (10.50 SB) [Jc], [Ah], [Qd] (5 players)SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, MP1 calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) [6h] (4 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.River: (8.25 BB) [Tc] (4 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets, Hero callsWhen he checked on the river I actually told myself "bet/fold" but I don't think that's right. This is bet/call right? Anybody check behind here?Jeff

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(9 max, 9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Js], [Jd].    2 folds, MP1 calls.Flop: (10.50 SB) [Jc], [Ah], [Qd] (5 players)SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, MP1 calls.Turn: (6.25 BB) [6h] (4 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls.River: (8.25 BB) [Tc] (4 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets, Hero callsWhen he checked on the river I actually told myself "bet/fold" but I don't think that's right.  This is bet/call right?  Anybody check behind here?Jeff
I'd check it behind him,
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The way the hand played out, I think villians likely hands in order are:KQ ~ 45%AK ~ 20%AJ ~ 15%TT ~ 10%AQ ~ 10%These numbers are very conservative IMO. In reality, I think he has KQ/AK closer to 75% of the time. Just check behind.If you do bet, and are raised, it is read dependent. I probably bet/call agianst all but the most passive/predictable opponents.

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I can't imagine folding it. At low stake games, it may often be someone who made their second pair.I'd probably bet/call.Checking behind isn't a terrible option though.

The way the hand played out, I think villians likely hands in order are:KQ ~ 45%AK ~ 20%AJ ~ 15%TT ~ 10%AQ ~ 10%These numbers are very conservative IMO.In reality, I think he has KQ/AK closer to 75% of the time.
Are you assigning those probabilities WITH the information of the checkraise or without?
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IMO this is an easy check....you can only get raised here.....absolutely no value in betting.....that is an awful bet.....besides the river you played the hand correctly

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Who's to say you can only get raised here?He could easily get a worse  hand to call, and sometimes even raised by a worse hand.
What hands are going to call a bet on the river there? i just don't see two pair calling us on the river (if there is two pair out there). Even if we do have the best hand, a bet will not win any more money IMO. It is a useless bet with what has now become a medium-weak hand, as it is now neither a value bet nor a bluff. It's what guys like Jesus call the worst play in poker.
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IMO this is an easy check....you can only get raised here.....absolutely no value in betting.....that is an awful bet.....besides the river you played the hand correctly
I don't think it's awful, but I don't think it's good either. I think my including the villain's raise here is skewing some opinions on this hand.I suppose it's bad in that I'm risking 2 bets to win 1 if a better hand raises. Then again, the way it played out the guy may very well call with a lesser hand. This is one of those cases where I wish I was OOP and I'd check/call. That alone prolly means I shoulda checked.Jeff
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