flopped straight, turn 3-flush/4-straight (lhe)

[psujohn 0]

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [Tc], [Jc]. 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) [9h], [Kc], [Qh] (4 players)BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.Turn: (12.25 BB) [Jh] (4 players)BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, BB calls, MP1 folds.River: (15.25 BB) [8c] (3 players)BB bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls.Final Pot: 24.25 BBFlopped a straight and intended to check/raise but with all this raising it becomes a 4 way cap. Even better.Turn brings a 3-flush and higher straight possible so I slow down looking to call it down. With the bet to my right should I raise this turn looking to fold a flush draw? It seems like the pot's big enough that draws will be staying around. I don't feel like I can raise for value seeing how I'm beat by a flush or A-10 and splitting with an 10.River probably didn't help anyone - if there's a 10-7 here I beat them anyway - but I'm faced with calling 2 cold. Fold here? I call mostly because the pot is big and I really liked flopping a straight. Faced with one more I have to call it.You wouldn't believe what these guys showed down. Actually you probably would. BB goes into my buddy list - not just because of this hand.

[Don Giovanni 0]

explain to me how you were going to check raise someone who bet in front of you on the flop? that being said, raise mp2 when he bets, dont try to slowplay or checkraise. your hand is still in danger, it can easily be drawn out on.

[akishore 0]

i would raise the flop. i think straights are too vulnerable to slowplay, IMHO.that also changes how the rest of the hand plays out. the way you played the flop, i raise this turn and strongly consider laying it down if anyone three-bets.aseem

[psujohn 0]

Obviously the intention to check raise was before MP2 bet out. I figured BB would bet being the pre-flop raiser.Raise the flop because straights are vulnerable in general or because this particular one is so vulnerable? Part of the reason I didn't bet it was because the lead out from MP2 surprised me. I was expecting a more typical check to the pf raiser and he bets. Admitedly though I did want to slow play it. Yeah, I think raise the turn fold to a 3 bet is probably better than what I did.I really don't like calling 2 cold on the river but you see so much bizarre play from this low limit players that it's hard to get away from a made hand in a big pot.BB flips over Ad7d for ace high. He's 3-betting the river on this board with A high? Expecting the flush and straights to fold for one more bet?MP2 flips over AA making his turn play understandable and everything else pretty much daft.

[KDawgCometh 2]

you have to raise the flop, there is no question about that. YOu need to do your best to thin the field so that your hand can hold up. I would also consider raising PF when it gets to you. You have position and you can build the pot so that if you hit good you can reap a big ole pot

[TheIceman05 0]

you have to raise the flop, there is no question about that. YOu need to do your best to thin the field so that your hand can hold up. I would also consider raising PF when it gets to you. You have position and you can build the pot so that if you hit good you can reap a big ole pot

I agree with the preflop raise idea. TJs and QJs (and to a lesser extent 9Ts) are hands that can flop really well sometimes. With a hand like TJ and all the limpers ahead of you, you've got 2 TP cards (tens, jacks) and 3 legitimate bluffing opportunities in late position (Q, K, A) at a weak-passive table. Remember, the field has limped, so unless you're against a suited Ace or KQ, you've got some serious options with this hand. That small fact aside, TJs flops big hands and big draws, and when you're playing a multiway pot in position, you might as well raise and try to steal the button so:1) You can win a big sneaky pot when you flop big2) You can check the flop with a back-door draw or two (or gutshot), and get to the river cheaply.This latter one is often ignored. Some ugly flops for your hand (2s 9c Ah) will be checked to you, and when the turn comes something good (8s?, Q?, etc), you'll be able to see a river and catch up.(shrug)Ice

[screech 0]

Raise the turn. You can't give up to a flush just yet (if you do why are you calling?) and you can't let hands with lone hearts outdraw you cheaply.