Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Ac], [Kh]. Hero raises, BB calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) [Ks], [As], [Ad] (4 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.Turn: (7.25 BB) [6d] (3 players)Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls, MP calls.River: (19.25 BB) [5d] (3 players)Hero bets, Button calls.Final Pot: 25.25 BBAnyone play the flop faster? Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 i think you should charge the royal flush draw the maximum. don't give him a free card to beat you!!just kidding.but anyway, it depends. what's your table image like, and how aggressive are these guys? will a flop three-bet actually make them slow down or will it make them believe that you're just bluffing?aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 will a flop three-bet actually make them slow down or will it make them believe that you're just bluffing?Not sure. Button's a player I normally stay from, TAA, MP I have like 3 hands on. I'm 99% certain that if MP checks, button bets this turn after calling two cold.I think I might have gotten the flop capped here, but not sure if I get the same action on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
Blink20 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Problem is, if you three bet, mp caps, then they have to face two bets cold again, that might make them run away.But... they didn't leave to first two bets, so probably won't to next two. I would probably go ahead and bump it up again on flop, but I really have no good reason other than my mouse is stuck on the bet button when i play shorthanded limit Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 given yuo got max value on turn, it seems like it worked..but absent the turn action...I'd think you coulda played it for (edit) 4 more Small Bets..turn action biases me towards, yes..played perfect. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 thats how i woulda played it...i hate to get to aggressive on the flop and lose BB later on...turn and river are easy to play since they do most of the betting for you Link to post Share on other sites
guinevar 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 You played it fine. There is no way the other players the the betting for you after you threebet the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 I did cost myself $20 on the end, I think.I almost never chat on Party, like once every three weeks, maybe, but for some stupid reason as I three-bet the river I chatted "we chopping AK?"He said "****. No." and just called.Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 wtf did they have to do all that betting?- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
guinevar 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Haha.That's definitely $20 burned. Smash: "I have the mortal nuts, do you too?"Other dude: "No...dangit. My kings SUCK." Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 wtf did they have to do all that betting?Button had KK, I assume MP had a missed flush draw. Which is a shame, really, I'm sure he was good for at least 2 more if he hit it.Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
Blink20 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 MP had J 10 spadesButton had a King Link to post Share on other sites
Blink20 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 ah KKthat's what i meant Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 MP had J 10 spadesButton had a KingClose! Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 hahaha, smash, that's really pretty dumb to say that in the chatbox. :-) aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 hahaha, smash, that's really pretty dumb to say that in the chatbox. Hence me ussually not chatting Link to post Share on other sites
guinevar 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I chat sometimes, but I don't normally say things that can be likened to "You can't possibly beat my hand." :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 I really thought we were chopping.Never entered my mind he wouldn't three-bet KK in position or that he'd overplay Ax here. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 i thought he was overplayin a lower boat...guess thats why i dont play 10/20 on party Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 yeah, button calling 2 cold tells me he's not going anywhere. i'd probably play it faster, hoping to get it capped on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 wtf did they have to do all that betting?Button had KK, I assume MP had a missed flush draw. Â Which is a shame, really, I'm sure he was good for at least 2 more if he hit it.Good luck.Did he show?Without a 3-bet on the flop I would've put him on Ace Rag.The 3rd guy pretty obviously had the flush draw... Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 Did he show? Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.You get to see the hand when they call Link to post Share on other sites
RhinestoneCowboy 2 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Did he show?Hero bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.You get to see the hand when they call I gotta lay off the drugs. And I have to read the whole thread next time, you said the same thing about the last of 3 betting preflop.Next time Ill just say good hand and move on... Link to post Share on other sites
creepy20 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 you just made more than twice my br on that hand...i hate you...oh and I don't 3-bet this flop....you want flush draws staying in to pay on the turn raises you are going to put in....... nh Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Ac], [Kh]. Hero raises, BB calls.Flop: (8.50 SB) [Ks], [As], [Ad] (4 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds, Hero calls.Turn: (7.25 BB) [6d] (3 players)Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls, MP calls.River: (19.25 BB) [5d] (3 players)Hero bets, Button calls.Final Pot: 25.25 BBAnyone play the flop faster?I like the way you played the flop, thinking of it from the point of view of your opponent. If you call a raise, I'm putting you on two pair, maybe A-weak. Capping it just chases out everyone but the strongest hands (another Ax, Kings, or a straight/flush draw). I'm pretty comfortable in this situation, and I want everyone to tail along with me, so I'll wait until the turn and get my big bets in here.Also keep in mind that you are in early position with an agressive bettor after you, so a check/raise on the turn is a strong possibility. If the situation is reversed and the agressor is behind me, I'll cap the flop to get the most money in when I can.Oh, and I'm guessing QJs vs KK.Dev Link to post Share on other sites
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