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[strategy]

Admin,Can you post some suggestions for asking questions in this forum?Specifically, I'd appreciate it if you could highlight some of the important things one has to consider when answering a question about a tournament situation. For instance, the chip counts of everyone at the table, the blinds/antes, the time left before the next round, the reads on all the players at the table, the average stack etc. etc.I don't want to be a jerk about this and I'm not singling anybody out. We can all answer questions with better accuracy if we are given all the facts up-front.What do the rest of the tournament-folk think?

[Scottp4175]

strategy said:

Admin,Can you post some suggestions for asking questions in this forum?Specifically, I'd appreciate it if you could highlight some of the important things one has to consider when answering a question about a tournament situation. For instance, the chip counts of everyone at the table, the blinds/antes, the time left before the next round, the reads on all the players at the table, the average stack etc. etc.I don't want to be a jerk about this and I'm not singling anybody out. We can all answer questions with better accuracy if we are given all the facts up-front.What do the rest of the tournament-folk think?

I think this would be a great idea, and for the etc's I would add the poster's table image, the tourney buy-in, how many players left, how many make the money, and there are probably a few more I'm forgetting.

[strategy]

Scottp4175 said:

I think this would be a great idea, and for the etc's I would add the poster's table image, the tourney buy-in, how many players left, how many make the money, and there are probably a few more I'm forgetting.

It's a pretty hefty list of stuff you have to know to get an accurate answer, that's for sure. Thank god for the details in poker; it would be so boring without them.

[JaysonWeber]

Well lets get a good list together and I can make a sticky... Good Idea Strat.-Jayson

[Scottp4175]

Strat, I think it would work best if you started a list and then edited it after others' respond with additional items.

[zimmer4141]

I think that hand converter is a must. It shows all of the stack sizes, and keeps it clean. All hands should give the read you have on the player in the hand. Where you are in the tournament in relation to the money, as well as the buyin are all important.[/code]

[Scottp4175]

So far we have:Tourney buy-inGame (NLHE, PLO, etc)Live or online?Starting playersRemaining playersAverage chip stackHow many in the $Blinds, antes, next blind levelButton positionChip stackOpponent's chip stacksTable imageRead on opponentsYour goal (just want to move up in the $, only playing to win, etc.)Don't post results (skews analysis)Any others? I will check this thread again in the morning and edit the list if necessary.Edit: I agree with Zimmer on using the converter if possible.

[strategy]

Scottp4175 said:

So far we have:Tourney buy-inGame (NLHE, PLO, etc)Live or online?Starting playersRemaining playersHow many in the $Blinds, antes, next blind levelChip stackOpponent's chip stacksTable imageRead on opponentsYour goal (just want to move up in the $, only playing to win, etc.)Don't post results (skews analysis)Any others? I will check this thread again in the morning and edit the list if necessary.

Also include the location of the button on that list.I am kind of wondering if including the buy-in will skew answers. The correct play is still correct regardless of the tournament buyin, but I can think of a few instances where people might play sub-optimally because of a higher buyin. I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks about including the buyin.Rocketwadster would probably want to include the average chip count, too. I don't think it hurts to provide it (it does give you an idea of how deep the stacks are and how fast people will be moving) but I can't remember a time where I have ever changed my answer to a question because of the average chip stack. A list of all the stacks at the table should suffice, but that's just my opinion.

[Scottp4175]

strategy said:

Scottp4175 said:

So far we have:Tourney buy-inGame (NLHE, PLO, etc)Live or online?Starting playersRemaining playersHow many in the $Blinds, antes, next blind levelChip stackOpponent's chip stacksTable imageRead on opponentsYour goal (just want to move up in the $, only playing to win, etc.)Don't post results (skews analysis)Any others? I will check this thread again in the morning and edit the list if necessary.

Also include the location of the button on that list.I am kind of wondering if including the buy-in will skew answers. The correct play is still correct regardless of the tournament buyin, but I can think of a few instances where people might play sub-optimally because of a higher buyin. I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks about including the buyin.Rocketwadster would probably want to include the average chip count, too. I don't think it hurts to provide it (it does give you an idea of how deep the stacks are and how fast people will be moving) but I can't remember a time where I have ever changed my answer to a question because of the average chip stack. A list of all the stacks at the table should suffice, but that's just my opinion.

I added average chip stack and button position to the list. I think you make a good point about the tourny buy-in, maybe we can get some feedback on what the other tourny contributors think about it. My main reason for it is that I often put players on a wider range of hands in small buy-in tourneys (for example weak Aces out of position), although from what I've read this might not be correct, and I don't really have much experience with larger buy-in tourneys ($100 +).

[Rocketwadster]

strategy said:

Also include the location of the button on that list.I am kind of wondering if including the buy-in will skew answers. The correct play is still correct regardless of the tournament buyin, but I can think of a few instances where people might play sub-optimally because of a higher buyin. I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks about including the buyin.Rocketwadster would probably want to include the average chip count, too. I don't think it hurts to provide it (it does give you an idea of how deep the stacks are and how fast people will be moving) but I can't remember a time where I have ever changed my answer to a question because of the average chip stack. A list of all the stacks at the table should suffice, but that's just my opinion.

Don't be dragging my name into your poser thread...lolIMO - average chip stacks are good to know, as in many online tourneys your M at the later stages may seem very low, but in relation to the average chip stacks it is probably not as bad as it appears (online tourneys for the most part want it to be finished ASAP so that they can start the next one).