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[wannabe 0]

OK, in the SB, am I completing more often, since it is a 10/15 blind structure? Currently I am not, and I don't think I should, but I'm just curious.

[Rocketwadster 0]

In HFAP, Sklansky says to complete MORE often when it is a 2/3 SB than a 1/2 SB. 8)

[KDawgCometh 2]

open completling is fine. any BB is gonna three bet you often of raise any flop continuation bet that you try since he knows that your raising range will be very wide. You are also OOP and it sucks when you are putting in more money then you need to

[wannabe 0]

thanks homie

[wannabe 0]

open completling is fine. any BB is gonna three bet you often of raise any flop continuation bet that you try since he knows that your raising range will be very wide. You are also OOP and it sucks when you are putting in more money then you need to

I was mainly referring to say, when 3-6 people limp in, and im in the SB.I'm raising or folding heads up against the BB

[jayboogie 0]

If there's like 4 or 5 limpers, pretty much any 2 cards, your going to complete from the small blind. I would say your going to play the majority of your hands in the small blind or at least you should. You need to be more concerned about stealing the blinds and protecting your blinds at the middle limits.

[akishore 0]

jen harmon says (and a lot of 2+2'ers agree) that you can/should complete with any two cards after two limpers.you're getting 11-to-1 for only 1/3 of an SB--that's a great price. add one more limper (three total), and you're getting a whopping 14-to-1 for only 1/3 of an SB.aseem

[jayboogie 0]

jen harmon says (and a lot of 2+2'ers agree) that you can/should complete with any two cards after two limpers.you're getting 11-to-1 for only 1/3 of an SB--that's a great price. add one more limper (three total), and you're getting a whopping 14-to-1 for only 1/3 of an SB.aseem

Yeah, pretty much what I was saying without all the #'s

[Rocketwadster 0]

According to Sklansky - If it comes down to just you and the BB, you should almost automatically raise. If he folds as low as only 30% of the time to your raise, you will show a profit. 8)

[akishore 0]

According to Sklansky - If it comes down to just you and the BB, you should almost automatically raise. If he folds as low as only 30% of the time to your raise, you will show a profit. 8)

that's wrong, because you're assuming you're losing ONLY 1.33 SB if he doesn't fold.much more often than not, you're firing a continuation bet on the flop (+1 SB), calling a raise sometimes (+1 SB maybe 50% of the time, varies by player), firing a continuation bet on the turn sometimes (+1 BB 35% of the time), and all that jazz.http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat...&fpart=all&vc=1read the first post.aseem

[Rocketwadster 0]

According to Sklansky - If it comes down to just you and the BB, you should almost automatically raise. If he folds as low as only 30% of the time to your raise, you will show a profit. 8)

that's wrong, because you're assuming you're losing ONLY 1.33 SB if he doesn't fold.much more often than not, you're firing a continuation bet on the flop (+1 SB), calling a raise sometimes (+1 SB maybe 50% of the time, varies by player), firing a continuation bet on the turn sometimes (+1 BB 35% of the time), and all that jazz.http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat...&fpart=all&vc=1read the first post.aseem

No, It's not wrong, as there are times when you will get called but still win, even if you are behind. It's straight out of HFAP. Am I missing something here? :?

[akishore 0]

No, It's not wrong, as there are times when you will get called but still win, even if you are behind. It's straight out of HFAP. Am I missing something here? :?

i'm not saying that open-raising is wrong.i'm saying:1. reasoning that you only need to win 30% of the time is wrong. we're forgetting completely about implied and effective odds. yes, sometimes you win, but being out of position makes it MUCH harder to play postflop, and you often need to invest a lot more money (risk) to take down the pot (reward).2. automatically open-raising every time is wrong. a LOT of hands should be open-limped with, and specifically against some types of opponents.aseem

[Rocketwadster 0]

No, It's not wrong, as there are times when you will get called but still win, even if you are behind. It's straight out of HFAP. Am I missing something here? :?

i'm not saying that open-raising is wrong.i'm saying:1. reasoning that you only need to win 30% of the time is wrong. we're forgetting completely about implied and effective odds. yes, sometimes you win, but being out of position makes it MUCH harder to play postflop, and you often need to invest a lot more money (risk) to take down the pot (reward).2. automatically open-raising every time is wrong. a LOT of hands should be open-limped with, and specifically against some types of opponents.aseem

That is why I said "almost" before automatically raise. I think we both understand the concept that Sklansky is advocating... 8)

[Smasharoo 0]

OK, in the SB, am I completing more often, since it is a 10/15 blind structure?Yeah, almost allways.