ziggy587 0 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 This happened in a 1/2 NL Live Game. I am mid position with 88 (suits don't have relevance here) early position(been raising alot of pots without having to showdown) raises to $4 everyone folds to me, I call, both blinds fold.Flop is 7-6-2 rainbowHe bets $5, I raise to $10, He callsTurn is a 3He now checks, I bet the pot, and he calls.River is a 9He now comes out firing with a pot sized bet. Sould i get off this hand, do I have too much $$$ committed not to call? What hands could I put him on right now? What should I do?Thanks, I will respond with the actual outcome later. Link to post Share on other sites
JacKingOff_suit 0 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Make good decision early so that you can make easy decisions later.88 is not a good hand to call an aggressor when it's headsup, too many overcards can scare me. You need to have a version of what you plan to do with this hand few steps ahead, you need to know the strength of this hand in advance (you may have overestimated its strength).88 is only good when there are enough players, I only hope to flop a set against them or it's easy muck.With that said, UTG minimum raised preflop. The pot was $11 and he only bet out $5 on the flop. Your $10 raise was sick. Raise more like $20. If you get called, you can put him on two overcards. If he come over the top, you fold. You may be thinking since you've got overpair and he's an aggressor then you are entitled to take his whole stack, however that's not the case, just be happy to take the pot right there. You only take a monster pot with a monster hand. Weak overpair, however, is not the case. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Make good decision early so that you can make easy decisions later.88 is not a good hand to call an aggressor when it's headsup, too many overcards can scare me. You need to have a version of what you plan to do with this hand few steps ahead, you need to know the strength of this hand in advance (you may have overestimated its strength).88 is only good when there are enough players, I only hope to flop a set against them or it's easy muck.With that said, UTG minimum raised preflop. The pot was $11 and he only bet out $5 on the flop. Your $10 raise was sick. Raise more like $20. If you get called, you can put him on two overcards. If he come over the top, you fold. You may be thinking since you've got overpair and he's an aggressor then you are entitled to take his whole stack, however that's not the case, just be happy to take the pot right there. You only take a monster pot with a monster hand. Weak overpair, however, is not the case.this covers it Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 A few things about this hand that don't sit right...1) I've played $1-2 NL live before...Min raises don't usuallynarrow the field to heads up...Hell, $10 raises usually see4-5 way action, I have my doubts on that one.2) What's with the lame min raise on the flop?If you want to protect your hand from a draw (though it doesn't look like there are many there)you need to raise more than just the size of the guy's $5 bet.3) Your hand isn't really all that strong...A pot sized bet herewhen you've got $42 invested in the pot seems to me to be a pretty easy fold. Push edges when you're a big favourite70%+ like the Smash system.As for hands to put him on...well...I'm thinking he either hitsome type of garbage straight on you, 2 pairs by playing theinfamous soooted connectors, or he had you beaten from thestart with a pair of 10's or jacks.Depending on your reads and observations too, he might alsobe playing a missed overcard draw with something like AK but it would take a hell of a read there to call him downwith pocket 8's, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 You played it like a donkey IMO, and now you must fold like a donkey. He has trips nines or ace nine suited. Link to post Share on other sites
WaitingforMyRuca 0 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 raise more on te flop. It is almost never correct to raise the min. Link to post Share on other sites
Blink20 0 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 You have position and a decent holding.Pot size raise on the flop. The rest of your decisions become easy to make.*There could be a better play however if you had a particular read on villian. But without read, pot sized raise on flop is best, imo. BTW, your live 1/2 game sucks, I'm guessing its not at a casino. BB folded to mini raise. Mini raise got it to heads up? I'm agreeing with the other poster, that's very odd. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Strange as it is, I've seen villains play AA and KK this way. Link to post Share on other sites
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