109suited 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 not sure about this hand.Hero is MP2 with red JJFolds to me, I raise one cold caller in the CO, sb and bb fold.flop: 7 6 A I bet, CO raises, I callTurn: 4 I check, CO bets, I call.River: T I check, CO bets, I call.Anyone play differently? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 fold the flop or turn. its realy up to you. Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 Really? I've been raised on the flop or turn nearly everytime i bet the flop playing in this game tonight. I think it's wa/wb. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Really? I've been raised on the flop or turn nearly everytime i bet the flop playing in this game tonight. I think it's wa/wb.dunno what that means, but 2 BB to find out if hes bluffing doesnt sound +EV. Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 Maybe. But I can't just fold everytime I get raised on the flop when an ace hits. These ****ers are tricky at 10/20. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Maybe. But I can't just fold everytime I get raised on the flop when an ace hits. These censored are tricky at 10/20.if theyre that tricky, they'll pay you off when you have real hands. will they fold to 3 bets if theyre bluffing? Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 I guess 3 betting the flop is better than just calling down. I dunno. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I guess 3 betting the flop is better than just calling down. I dunno.its tough, but you dont really find out much by check-calling. Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 I just started playing 10/20 and it really is amazing the difference in postflop play from 5/10 to 10/20. The preflop play seems looser at 10/20 and the postflop play is leaps and bounds trickier. There's been a definite learning curve. Link to post Share on other sites
Briguy 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Fold the turn. Maybe bet/fold the turn? Your backdoor flush is kaput, and you'll save 1BB when your opponent raises with the A. Link to post Share on other sites
BeanGW 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 In a small pot, with no additional information about the villain, I probably check/fold the turn.But, if I know him to be a LAG, or ubertricky, maybe I call him down. And if instead, he's a tight-passive, untricky player, I may fold to the flop raise.Basically, in most cases, the pot is small enough where it's usually not worth 2 more BB to see his Ace. Link to post Share on other sites
Sysvr4 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I'd call the flop just in case he's on a free card play. Check/fold the turn UI.Jeff Link to post Share on other sites
creepy20 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 reraise the flop or fold...i don't see any point in just calling. Link to post Share on other sites
tdmlb24 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 fold the flop or turn. its realy up to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Fold the flop. 8) Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I guess 3 betting the flop is better than just calling down. I dunno.If you three bet the flop he'll probably call the 3 bet and now u have to bet the turn too. I dont like 3 betting the flop here, just B/C Ch/F. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Really? I've been raised on the flop or turn nearly everytime i bet the flop playing in this game tonight. I think it's wa/wb.this info should have been included in the original post. Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 Yes it should have. I think there's part of me that thinks folding the flop or the turn is right. If I am going to continue with the hand, I probably should 3 bet the flop, lead the turn and fold to a raise. The table was really really tricky postflop and loose preflop, which is the reason I called down. The conflict in my mind could simply be results based thinking, b/c he ended up turning over 99. I dunno. Anymore thoughts would be appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Really? I've been raised on the flop or turn nearly everytime i bet the flop playing in this game tonight. I think it's wa/wb.coould this statement here not make you think that leading out on the flop may be a bad thing? perhaps a check/raise is in order, no? :? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Fold to the flop raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Fold to the flop raise.sorry smash, but I gave that advice long ago...you will have to tell hmisomething else to do...lol Link to post Share on other sites
Blink20 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 If you're gonna play it, its very read dependent.Playing that level, you should have stats on your opponents, that would be the best way to go about it, imo.Pokertracker is like 3 bb's in that game ;)Give the stats in your posts, it'll make for better discussion. Link to post Share on other sites
109suited 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 Yeah, I get that most people think folding to the flop raise is the best play, but I just can't see folding every time I have a big pair and an ace flops, at least heads up. At this table, he could be cold calling with a lot of hands that I have smoked. Are there any other viable options other than b/c c/f? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 At this table, he could be cold calling with a lot of hands that I have smoked.Then raising this flop, behind?Good for him, he'll make you rich.Correct me if I'm wrong but MOST of the time when you raise it means Ax with X being a good kicker, right?So you think that he's decided, for this one particular hand to put you on a middle pair and to raise this flop with TT or something?Honest?Or is it more you just can't fold pocket Jacks?Let me know. Link to post Share on other sites
JacKingOff_suit 0 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 How about check the flop, when villian bet then raise, if get reraised then fold ? Link to post Share on other sites
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