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#1 Forbidden Void

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:20 PM

Not to inflate Smash's ego too much, but his NL strategy is brilliant... at least it was tonight.Or it could be that 1/2 NL is the loosest game ever with the worst players.I've been playing 10/20 limit for about a year, and I do pretty well, so I decided to take 200 to the 1/2 NL tables online tonight... and turned it into 800 in about two hours using his method. Anyway, it works, for what it's worth.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:21 PM

What hands were they calling with?

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:24 PM

maybe you had a very lucky night.but smash is a smart guy.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:25 PM

What's his method? Is it the only call pocket pairs preflop and go all in when hitting a set?
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 09:37 PM

Pretty much people will call with TPTK, or two pairlesser pairs when I'm all in with KK or AA.Works out well.Not that I'm going to switch to NL on a regular basis, but it certainly can be profitable fun at least.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:01 PM

I am a genius, but not for thinking of this.People are just so stunningly horrible at NL that this will beat most low limit NL games because nearly anything will.This is why most NL players suck so much, but think they're pros in the making because they can beat games (for a lower win rate than my mechanical strat 99/100 times) that a retarded chimp hurling feces at a mouse could beat.It's also why they often get crushed trying to switch to limit because it requires so much more skill to play effectively even at lower limits./shrug. Glad it worked out for you.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:05 PM

Smasharoo said:

This is why most NL players suck so much, but think they're pros in the making because they can beat games (for a lower win rate than my mechanical strat 99/100 times) that a retarded chimp hurling feces at a mouse could beat.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:10 PM

Well, I play NL in tourneys, but after watching these people play at a ring game it's completely different. People will call preflop raises with anything and then say later "I knew you had AA, but I just had to go for it with my 85o"It's almost funny.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:10 PM

The strategy also works well for tournies and SnGs by the very relation of the three types of games.I think the only addition I add to my tournament game is to press hard with AK pre-flop. You can tell when someone has lesser A-x (10, J,Q) or low pp pre-flop when you re-raise their raise and they simply call. If they go all in, well, it's up to you, your position in the chip stack and your observations about the player at the table. Point being, alot of people find that A10, AJ and AQ are all great hands to go all in with, when they are actually 3 to 1 dogs.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:11 PM

So all in Pre flop AA KK AKsLimp with pairs and suited aces.All in on the flop with nut flush and set.Is this it??NO drawing for flush at any price?Thanks in advance.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:18 PM

This is a variation on Sklansky's system, yes?Monty

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:20 PM

All in preflop with AKs? I dunno about that.I 2nd Smash's comment about most NL players even though I am one myself. I actually noticed people get looser as you move up to 25/50/100 NL. I couldn't believe how many people will just flat out refuse to fold top pair or even 2nd pair.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:22 PM

loxo said:

So all in Pre flop AA KK AKsLimp with pairs and suited aces.All in on the flop with nut flush and set.Is this it??NO drawing for flush at any price?Thanks in advance.
Smash's method for cash games is to just play pp, see the flop, no set no bet, get a set, all in.I'm sure smash would probably agree that all in pre flop with AA is fine.AKs is definitely not something you want to be all in with pre flop imo in a cash game. I just extended my advice on tournaments to include AK because alot of players have no problem going all in with AQ, AJ etc. If you are in a position to do so, push them hard pre flop (i.e. you have a much larger chip stack). Chances are you are at least45% to win, and if it's a raise from the earlies, you re-raise, they call, you are 75% to win. If I have my opponent significantly out-chipped, I'm going to push them all in with AK in a tourny most of the time.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:27 PM

Multitabling 500NL I just go all-in every hand.It's very profitable.Try it.

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:28 PM

This is a variation on Sklansky's system, yes? Not really. His goal is to mitigate post flop skill by moving in preflop with a wider range of hands, preferably attacking raises from agressive players. He's alsot talking about tournaments.My goal is just to collect money from morons who will call all in drawing litterally dead. Why bother trying to get them to call 70/30 when you can get them to call 100/0.Moving in preflop with AA and KK you have a slightly smaller edge, but still ussually 70/30ish. Which isn't bad for an even money prop.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:33 PM

Second best low NL strat I've ever seen.Boring as hell.

#17 MLMarkland

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:34 PM

Cool.Monty

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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:35 PM

It's fishing at it's best. It's boring, ugly, and doesn't require any skill but lots of discipline. It really depends what you value more from poker, money or playing/skill.
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:42 PM

It really depends what you value more from poker, money or playing/skill.The skill is making the most money. If you don't see that, you need a new hobby. I hear making ships in a bottle takes a lot of skill...
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Posted 14 August 2005 - 10:46 PM

where do i find this strat




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