justblaze 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (8 handed) convertervillain is 14/10/1.91 through 342, no specific reads as hands were datamined.Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [Jh], [Kh]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $5. 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (5.40 SB) [4h], [Th], [Kc] (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.Turn: (5.70 BB) [Qd] (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.River: (7.70 BB) [Qc] (2 players)BB bets, Hero ...Final Pot: 8.70 BB Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 you missed a raise preflop.I call the river, too. KKQQJ just counterfeited KKTTQ. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 you missed a raise preflop.I call the river, too. KKQQJ just counterfeited KKTTQ.KJ is killing me lately. Link to post Share on other sites
Egarim 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image (2bb's gives u plenty of raisng equity). If u have a loose img then limping is ok.I think u should cap the flop and try to keep control of the hand. If he bets out on the turn then just call. The pot is too large to fold on this river Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight image (2bb's gives u plenty of raisng equity). If u have a loose img then limping is ok.I think u should cap the flop and try to keep control of the hand. If he bets out on the turn then just call. The pot is too large to fold on this riverbut what can i beat? i dont think hes raising with KJ or K10 from there. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight imagekeep lurking Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight imagekeep lurkinglol. but seriously, you have K10 in his range there? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 probably not.I think call/call/call would be an OK line. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight imagekeep lurkingegarim, do you see why? Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 KJ isn't a good hand. In this case I might raise preflop if u have a tight imagekeep lurkinghaha yes...justblaze often gets accused of playing to tight and passive Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I think if your going to raise this flop, you don't call it down, otherwise call it down. If your raising for information here, you got it, he probably can beat kings with a jack kicker. The reason why I don't like raising is you lose more bets with the worst hand and make probably less bets when you have the best hand here as many hands like QQ will fold here if aggression is shown, but if you just call, they may bet the entire way through. Link to post Share on other sites
Egarim 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Cap the flop because ur actually a small favorite if ur outkicked and 3% dog vs aces. Also, u may buy urself a free card on the turn to catch ur flush or 2pair. Capping the flop gives u more options and more equity imo. Jayboogie says many hands like qq will fold to aggression here... if he 3bets then he's stupid and is obviously not going to fold his q's. In this case if you're behind its by a very small margin so ur not losing much by putting in that extra sb. However, it can give u a free card and control of the hand (he may think u hit a set, 2pair, or the turn can bring a scare card and make him check). Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I didn't notice the flush draw along with the pair, but this hand doesn't play too differently. There's probably several ways to play it and I don't think you can go too wrong either way. You could just call it all the way down unless you improve, letting a weaker hand bet for you or you can raise the flop too, I think if 3 bet, capping is good if you think you'll get a cheaper showdown UI.It's a pretty close decision on what to do on the flop and it depends on your opponent's tendencies to decide which route to go. Again, I don't think you can go wrong really on this hand.I'd have raised this pre-flop and you'd probably have a better indication of how strong your opponent is if you had raised pre-flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Egarim 0 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I didn't notice the flush draw along with the pair, but this hand doesn't play too differently. There's probably several ways to play it and I don't think you can go too wrong either way. You could just call it all the way down unless you improve, letting a weaker hand bet for you or you can raise the flop too, I think if 3 bet, capping is good if you think you'll get a cheaper showdown UI.It's a pretty close decision on what to do on the flop and it depends on your opponent's tendencies to decide which route to go. Again, I don't think you can go wrong really on this hand.I'd have raised this pre-flop and you'd probably have a better indication of how strong your opponent is if you had raised pre-flop.This post sounds more rational than the last one . Link to post Share on other sites
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