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#1 corndog

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:18 PM

Anyone think theres any truth to what this guy is saying? I came across the site while on ESPN.com. Suffice to say, I am highly highly skeptical. http://partypokercracked.com/

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:20 PM

He's saying he has a book that teaches you not to fold AA pre-flop.Did you actually read the website?There's no implication of anything other than poker strategy.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:25 PM

..not this again

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:27 PM

The two statements that he made:In fact, the only thing that is consistent in online gaming is the fact that it is never truly random. The cards follow undeniable patterns over and over again. In my opinion, this algorithm ensures that online gaming continues to attract and retain the largest percentage of playersFor example you will begin to understand why pocket Aces lose 90% of the time on Party Poker in “certain” pre-flop situations… Why when one player has a pocket pair, that TWO other players usually will ALSO have a pocket pair 50% of the time. (This rarely happens in real life.)...and much more.Means that he believes he knows some sort of pattern that the cards come out on, that truly isn't random. I've heard of people understanding the algorithims, and winning from it, I was just wondering if anyone else has ever heard of this.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:27 PM

seriously, at first it trys to make it sound like they have cracked some code but then he just goes on to say things that a begining poker book could probably teach you. They have not found any scheme in party poker or any other online site, this company is just trying to use your insecurity with online poker to his advantage. I know you are smart enough to read that page and say that it doesnt give you anything that regular poker book wouldnt tell you. just my .02
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:29 PM

I actually own the book. ( got it a lot cheaper off of ebay ) because I had been playing sit and gos at party and the card system seemed extremely fishy to me. It's easier to realize this in SNGs because of the constant all ins that show off everyones cards. I had seen more bad beats than I had ever seen in my life, and I will never play Party again because their is nothing random about their card program. Why do you think Party is the biggest site? Because the bad beats keep the fish around.

#7 corndog

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:29 PM

I agree, I just thought it was kind of funny

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:33 PM

Means that he believes he knows some sort of pattern that the cards come out on, that truly isn't random. I've heard of people understanding the algorithims, and winning from it, I was just wondering if anyone else has ever heard of this.Hahahahah.Hahahaha.Shuffling a deck of cards isn't random.Read it again and notice the carefull use of qualfying words to avoid saying anything.Have a look:Why when one player has a pocket pair, that TWO other players usually will ALSO have a pocket pair 50% of the time. (This rarely happens in real life.)In fact, the only thing that is consistent in online gaming is the fact that it is never truly random. The cards follow undeniable patterns over and over again. In my opinion, this algorithm ensures that online gaming continues to attract and retain the largest percentage of players You know, in my oppinion this guy is ussually very carefull about what he writes 50% of the time, this rarely happens in real life, and has gone out of hiw way to avoid saying anything at all.Learn to read.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:34 PM

If you lose money at party, it's because you suck at playing poker online and for no other reason.Party is the biggest site because they advertise the most and have the best bonnus structure.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:35 PM

"For example, did you know that if you are up against a flush draw on the flop, your opponent will make a flush THIRTY FIVE percent of the time??!! Order the book for other things that Party Poker does not want you to know!"
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:35 PM

"For example, did you know that if you are up against a flush draw on the flop, your opponent will make a flush THIRTY FIVE percent of the time??!! Order the book for other things that Party Poker does not want you to know!"Hahahaha.Is that really from the website?

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:39 PM

no, that's from my demented mind
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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:41 PM

looshle said:

Why do you think Party is the biggest site? Because the bad beats keep the fish around.
Exactly. Another good question, same answer; how do you think moneymaker drags all those pots and wins satellites online?

#14 Smasharoo

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 07:46 PM

You people aren't serious, are you?Tell me you're being intentionally sarcastic.Please.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 08:23 PM

looshle said:

I actually own the book. ( got it a lot cheaper off of ebay ) because I had been playing sit and gos at party and the card system seemed extremely fishy to me. It's easier to realize this in SNGs because of the constant all ins that show off everyones cards. I had seen more bad beats than I had ever seen in my life, and I will never play Party again because their is nothing random about their card program. Why do you think Party is the biggest site? Because the bad beats keep the fish around.
lol your post made me laugh. why dont you share with us some stuff the book says about how party poker is fixed. i personally cant stand party poker because their interface looks like it was created at about the same time as pong.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 08:29 PM

I'm not saying his book is right, or that he figured party poker out, but their definately something weird about Party Poker's card program. I had to move to a different site where I have tons more success. I was scared of playing KK on that site because probably about 40% of the time someone would have AA. Also, when I had AA and got my all $ in preflop, I would lose roughly 35-40% of the time to a lower pocket pair. I'm not saying this guy's stuff is legit, just saying that Party isn't. I probably played over 200 sngs before I couldnt handle it anymore.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 08:36 PM

oh well, the only site i play is pokerstars.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 08:38 PM

I'm not saying this guy's stuff is legit, just saying that Party isn't.I've played 100,000+ hands at Party.My hands hold almost presicely as often as they should.Now which sample set do you think is more accurate? My database of 100,000 hands or your memories of bad beats?Party is as random as a dealer in vegas shuffling a deck, probably more so.

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 08:42 PM

http://www.nd.edu/~v...PPCRACKED11.pdfBeen reading these forums a while figured this would be worth my first post, thought you guys might want this, enjoy..feel bad for the guy up top that paid for it!

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Posted 20 January 2005 - 08:46 PM

"When one player has a pocket pair, that TWO other players usually will ALSO have a pocket pair 50% of the time. (This rarely happens in real life.) " This has to be the most vague statement ever writeen about poker. C'mon it sounds like they got Yogi Berra to write this. 90% of baseball is half mental. If you actually believe this guy you fell right into his trap.




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