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[AceyDeucy]

From a 3-table party SnG (blinds 10-15):Hand 1 (UTG): K T . Raise to 3BB preflop. Flop is King high. I bet half the pot on the flop and turn and pick it up. I am now up to 1290.HandHand 2(BB): K6o. Four limpers and me. Flops is QJ5 rainbow. MP bets 15 at it, making total pot 75. I take one off at the 5-1 price. Turn is a K, giving me top pair and putting two clubs out. I bet 55 at the 90 pot, he reraised to 265. I didn't like it, but I folded. Now have 1215.Hand 3(SB) Q Q . limps to me, I raise to 4xBB, get four callers. Flop is K 6 3 I check, get bet about half the pot. Everyone folds, I call, thinking that a bluff will slow down, and if I catch a spade I might get a free draw to my flush. Turn is 8 . He bets about 400, I let it go. Now have 960.Hand 4(Button) QJo. Six limpers, I call, both blinds limp. Flop is QJT rainbow. Check check min bet, raise to 100 from the villain from hand two, a min raise to 200. I push all-in for 945. I am thinking about the straight, but for whatever reason just don't think it's out there. I don't have anything to make the read on, but figure, even if 89, K9, and AK are out there, I have outs. The first raiser and the minraiser call, showing K4o and KJo, respectively. King hits turn, giving KJ guy two better pair. I pick up a side pot for 300. K4 dude has 100 left. I have only 300Hand 5(CO) ATo. K4 bets 80, someone else reraises to 200, I push, both call (K4 for 20 more). AK (200 raiser) and Q9 (villain). King on flop. That's all folks, have a nice day.What frustrated me was that I don't think I could have gotten away any more cheaply. Hand 1, I won. Hand 2 I think I probably avoided a land mine. Usually ridiculous bets online are mistakes to call, though that guy did later call my all in on a coordinated board with one over and a gutshot. Hand 3 I think I played the only way I could, but my table image was getting really weak-LAGy. Hand 4 I made the iffiest play but got my money in as a huge favorite. Hand 5 was just desperation, though I could, and I guess should, have waited.*Walks into donkey stall, prepares to be identified.*

[dakielbasa]

Ok lets see here.Hand 1...well nothing wrong here just an UTG call with cheap blinds played ok but just make sure to be careful some1 can have better kicker.Hand 2... would have saved chips here was a badcall (sorry didnt want to make you feel bad)Hand 3 ... perfectly played didn't get too married to the pocket pair like everyone else doesHand 4... plain unluckHand 5... bad all in could have pushed in at a better time seeing a guy raise 200... perhaps you were on tilt

[HoosierAlum]

Why are you playing KT from UTG?

[Jadaki]

Playing ATo to a raise and a reraise is a bad idea, you need to wait for a better spot to push. The QJ hand is scary too. There is a possible straight out there and you already have a raise, reraise & 3rd raise in front of you. There are just a ton of hand possibilities that if they dont have you beat already, can easily draw out on you.. With as many limpers as there were in the pot, and the action in front of you, I would call hoping to hit a boat and get paid off by the straights. People get way to attached to 2 pair when boards and action dictate they should be more cautious.

[TruePoker]

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Hand 1 (UTG): K T . Raise to 3BB preflop. Flop is King high. I bet half the pot on the flop and turn and pick it up. I am now up to 1290.

In my opinion, UTG I am folding here, or calling if the table is very passive. I don't really wanna risk many chips with such a weak hand in such a weak position. My advice is to fold here, and maybe call. If this was your first hand of the tournament you don't have enough table image to try and steal blinds here, but I guess that wasn't your reason for raising this hand. Folding here loses you chips, but in my opinion was the right move.

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Hand 2(BB): K6o. Four limpers and me. Flops is QJ5 rainbow. MP bets 15 at it, making total pot 75. I take one off at the 5-1 price. Turn is a K, giving me top pair and putting two clubs out. I bet 55 at the 90 pot, he reraised to 265. I didn't like it, but I folded. Now have 1215.

Fold on the fl0p, you have to be aware that the other players staying in could have QK, JK, 5K, and any 2 pair here, you are calling with an overcard with no kicker and a backdoor straight draw. at 5:1 you can't think your implied odds are strong and even when you hit your hand you might not be ahead. Folding here saves you 70

Hand 3(SB) Q  Q  . limps to me, I raise to 4xBB, get four callers. Flop is K  6  3  I check, get bet about half the pot. Everyone folds, I call, thinking that a bluff will slow down, and if I catch a spade I might get a free draw to my flush. Turn is 8 . He bets about 400, I let it go. Now have 960.

Here if you are not winning you have just 5.5 outs to the river (2 + 2 + 1.5), roughly 10% chance to pick this up, we can assume that you are going to win this if you hit your outs but when you have to call 10BB for a 30BB pot you really can't think that this is a good call. You are getting laid 3:1 for your call and if you can work out the implied odds when you hit your hand one in ten times by the river then I am sure you will not work them out to be more than you would have to call the flop, and the turn if you miss.

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Hand 4(Button) QJo. Six limpers, I call, both blinds limp. Flop is QJT rainbow. Check check min bet, raise to 100 from the villain from hand two, a min raise to 200. I push all-in for 945. I am thinking about the straight, but for whatever reason just don't think it's out there. I don't have anything to make the read on, but figure, even if 89, K9, and AK are out there, I have outs. The first raiser and the minraiser call, showing K4o and KJo, respectively. King hits turn, giving KJ guy two better pair. I pick up a side pot for 300. K4 dude has 100 left. I have only 300

This hand is unlucky, I wouldn't call here with QJo but then again that is your choice. QJo in my opinion is not a strong hand, and in multiway is definitely not as strong as 67s or other hands with large implied odds. There are not many hands here that can give you enough confidence to take down a big pot with. If you hit them then that is good for you, but more often than not this hand is going to get into trouble, either by being dominated, in this case KJ vs QJ he was lucky to hit the king, but then again it was lucky that you hit two pair on the flop. Had the flop been Jxx you are sitting with top pair and no raise preflop you are in a lot of trouble. Folding preflop leaves you with approximately 900

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Hand 5(CO) ATo. K4 bets 80, someone else reraises to 200, I push, both call (K4 for 20 more). AK (200 raiser) and Q9 (villain). King on flop. That's all folks, have a nice day.

In my opinion ATo here is a weak hand, you have been bet and raised at so you have used your good position to the maximum and gained information. Your position now is no use as you are all in. In my opinion neither player would fold to your small raise, had you waited a hand perhaps you could steal in dealer position or wait for a bigger hand. I am not aware of the blinds as you haven't told them but I think making this move with a hand that is probably dominated is a bad one.Sorry if this makes you feel bad but this is my honest advice.Hoobiee

[Kaedin]

If you want an honest (yet somewhat harsh opinion) here it is:Better preflop hand selection will make your postflop play decisions easier.While you won the KTsuited hand from UTG, i dont think you should use that as reasoning to make that play in the future. KT UTG is really a fold hand. You're oop and there are alot of hands that internet people like that give you trouble, with 9ppl left to act.OJos isnt a great hand. Yes you had position, but it's a very scary hand at a full table.ATos, again, is not a great hand, especially playing to a raise and reraise.K6o should have folded on the flop.On the QQ hand, you did well to not get married to the hand, but I don't like your check call on the flop. Fire out a 1/2 pot sized bet, if he calls, you're probably shutting it down. Also, in the early levels, when there are a lot of limpers, you probably need to raise more preflop. If you're going to see a flop with QQ, you really only want one opponent.

[TruePoker]

You should have bet out on QQ, in my opinion I don't think you needed to raise any more than you did though, maybe a couple more BB but nothing intense. You had 4 limpers, so 3BB + 1BB / limper is a good way to work it out in these low level tournaments.

[Kaedin]

TruePoker said:

You should have bet out on QQ, in my opinion I don't think you needed to raise any more than you did though, maybe a couple more BB but nothing intense. You had 4 limpers, so 3BB + 1BB / limper is a good way to work it out in these low level tournaments.

I didnt mean anything intense like an all in or a 1/2 stack raise. 5 or 6xBB or so is what i do when i have a good hand, but one i feel is vulnerable to too many limpers.

[kouta43]

how about this analysis- everyhand you lost, you played horribly. Calling with K6 on a flop of JQ5, is so insanely bad you shouldnt even be wondering why you lost. QQ bet out fold to a raise. A 10 well you know it. fold fold fold.

[macphec]

raise w K10s utg on the 1st hand? Asking for trouble

[DaBruins]

you played terribly IMO. Hand 1, dont raise with that. Hand 2, fold for the 15 because it could get you in trouble just like it did, there is no point in counting pot odds if your gin card is gonna hit the turn and youre still gonna fold. Hand 4, EASY FOLD IMO (even though you did have the best hand at the time, that doesnt mean its not an easy fold). Hand 5, pushing with A10 against a raise and a re-raise will more often than not get you broke but your actions on the previous hands seald your fate.

[AceyDeucy]

I can see a consensus forming here, and I am not one to aruge with the whole world.I certainly agree with all the criticisms of the K6 and AT plays. I also conceded in the OP that the QJ play was iffy, and I was lucky to be ahead.