this kk hand makes me sick (nl)

[Blink20 0]

I hate playing scared, but I also hate playing stupid. Ah, finding the right balance.Im not going to give my thoughts on this hand until I read some responses, I'll just say I don't think I like it :-)PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) converterSB ($87.95)BB ($112.60)Hero ($104.95)MP ($83.20)Button ($32)Preflop: Hero is UTG with [Kd], [Ks]. Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, BB calls $4.Flop: ($15) [3c], [2s], [7h] (3 players)SB bets $4, SB calls $11, BB calls $11.Turn: ($60) [9c] (3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.River: ($60) [5c] (3 players)SB checks, BB bets $20, Hero calls $20, SB calls $20.Final Pot: $120

[Mattnxtc 0]

why check the turn? seems to me it would be a good time to go ahead and win the hand right then and there..unless ur up against a set and well ur done for

[Blink20 0]

why check the turn? seems to me it would be a good time to go ahead and win the hand right then and there..unless ur up against a set and well ur done for

There was really no draw on the flop, it seemed really safe. They both called my raise (which was a little short, I screw up every now and then, I meant for a pot size reraise on the flop) I think I should have put in a good bet on the turn, but something told me to put on my brakes and see how the hand develops. I really thought one of them was slowplaying. Worst hand I've played in a while.

[Mr Monkey 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

[Blink20 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

I hate my flop bet, that's where I reraise the pot.I hate my turn check.With all those mistakes in mind, on the river, I'm not folding getting 4-1 on my money. That's the only play I "like" .

[TheIceman05 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

Why would you raise more than the size of the pot on this flop with an overpair? Scared?

[allinbluff35 0]

Why would you raise more than the size of the pot on this flop with an overpair? Scared?

[Blink20 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

Why would you raise more than the size of the pot on this flop with an overpair? Scared?

Actually, his raise to 30, is less than the size of the pot, that's a 26$ raise.Take into account the 4 bet and four 4, then my 4 call, the pot is 30.If i was paying more attention, I woulda made it 34, a pot sized raise.

[allinbluff35 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

Why would you raise more than the size of the pot on this flop with an overpair? Scared?

Actually, his raise to 30, is less than the size of the pot, that's a 26$ raise.Take into account the 4 bet and four 4, then my 4 call, the pot is 30.If i was paying more attention, I woulda made it 34, a pot sized raise.

Flop: ($15) [3c], [2s], [7h] (3 players) SB bets $4, BB calls $4, Hero raises to $1515(pot on the flop)+4(sb's bet)+4(big blinds call)+4(your call)= 27, a $30 raise would be more than the pot

[Blink20 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

Why would you raise more than the size of the pot on this flop with an overpair? Scared?

Actually, his raise to 30, is less than the size of the pot, that's a 26$ raise.Take into account the 4 bet and four 4, then my 4 call, the pot is 30.If i was paying more attention, I woulda made it 34, a pot sized raise.

Flop: ($15) [3c], [2s], [7h] (3 players) SB bets $4, BB calls $4, Hero raises to $1515(pot on the flop)+4(sb's bet)+4(big blinds call)+4(your call)= 27, a $30 raise would be more than the pot

Ok, so my pot size raise example was wrong, raising to 34 more than pot ;-)However, his raise to 30 is a pot size raise, as you just pointed out in your math. He said he would make it 30 to go. A 26 raise :-)

[allinbluff35 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

Why would you raise more than the size of the pot on this flop with an overpair? Scared?

Actually, his raise to 30, is less than the size of the pot, that's a 26$ raise.Take into account the 4 bet and four 4, then my 4 call, the pot is 30.If i was paying more attention, I woulda made it 34, a pot sized raise.

Flop: ($15) [3c], [2s], [7h] (3 players) SB bets $4, BB calls $4, Hero raises to $1515(pot on the flop)+4(sb's bet)+4(big blinds call)+4(your call)= 27, a $30 raise would be more than the pot

Ok, so my pot size raise example was wrong, raising to 34 more than pot ;-)However, his raise to 30 is a pot size raise, as you just pointed out in your math. He said he would make it 30 to go. A 26 raise :-)

that's just a difference in how you interpret how "mr monkey" worded his post. I interpret it as he is raising 30 so making it 34 and you go with he is raising 30 so making it 30 to go which would be 26 more.

[Blink20 0]

i would have raised more on the flop. i would have raised it to $30. i think u should bet that turn. i would have folded to the the river bet. not only might u be beat but their is someone else who acts behind you.

AS I'm bolding that to prove I'm right I find:1) It doesn't really matter2) You probably still could interpret that to mean a 34 raiseAnway, overall point of thread, I played this hand like a little bitch and didn't deserve to win, which I did. They had QQ and 10 10. Now imagine how much more I woulda got if i played it right :-( . They both slowed down and would've turned into check calling. Argh.

[Mr Monkey 0]

Why would you raise more than the size of the pot on this flop with an overpair? Scared?

no. i want to win the pot or make people pay for staying around. also to try and get more info on the other players hand so i can figure out the best play on the turn. i would have raised to 30 . 26 more