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[Snydz9]

I am on the button with K Q . I limp in. Everyone folds except me and the Big Blind who checks, meaning he could have anything. The Flop comes 6 A 10 . BB raises 3500 out of nearly 8000 into my stack of 9350. I acted like it was a hard call to make, talkig that I ddidn't think I should call it, picked up my hand to throw it away, and just as he starts for the pot, called him. Turn comes 9 . BB bets another 3500, leaving him with only 1000 left. My question is on the play right here. Now, for what I'm getting out of this hand I have to atleast call him, and with the draws I'm at I know I have to be atleast 50/50 with him, but I'm guessing I have about 60/40 on him. The best possible hand he could have to me is A X that would take away my flush draw and lay him with top pair. I still have a straight draw. I figure that at worse 3 Jacks give me the better hand. He sure didn't play it like nut flush draw either, especially only checking the big bling with an Ace when only one person bothered to call. My thought it that he has either and ace or ten, and only bet because the little show I put on him. My question is do I call and wait for the river to potentially save myself an extra 1000 chips incase none of my draws come through? Or do I try and pick up the pot right there raising him all in?The choice I made, what came on the river, and what he had in white below, select it to see it.I decided to raise him all in. BB calls and turns over Ace spades 6 diamonds. The river came and bailed me out with a 2 of clubs...

[wrto4556]

You should have raised on the button with KQs.For future posts, put these kind of threads in the strategy section.

[JFarrell20]

WRTO is correct, you should have probably raised him pre-flop. Raising him all in here will do no good. It's pointless. A) You won't "buy him out" after he's put 7G's in the pot.B) If you call, and river doesn't help you, you will save 1 grand by mucking.C) If you call, and river helps you, you can put him all in right here if he checks it to you and he'll have to call you b/c he's pot committed. Putting him all in now, when you haven't made your hand is pointless. It won't make a big difference but you can save $1000.

[Eskimo]

Snydz9 said:

I am on the button with K Q . I limp in. Everyone folds except me and the Big Blind who checks, meaning he could have anything.

You definitely need to steal the blinds here.

[Smasharoo]

Raise pre-flop.All in on the flop.

[cemvardar]

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Now, for what I'm getting out of this hand I have to atleast call him, and with the draws I'm at I know I have to be atleast 50/50 with him, but I'm guessing I have about 60/40 on him.

I don't believe this statement is correct here.If he has an ace you have just 11outs ( 9:club: and 2 Jacks). I agree this is unlikely but possible (and actually he did have an Ace). 11/47 is your pure pot odds.If he has a 6 or a 10 then you have 6 additional outs (KKK and QQQ) which gives you 17/47. But you should trim these pot odds a little because he might already have a staight, or two pair or a set(highly unlikely)Otherwise he is on cold bluff, which gives you a rough 70- 80% chance of winning in the end, if you don;t reraise him and make him fold.(this one assumes you already have the best hand without the draw)Given these odds on the flop, when he bets more than 1/3 of my stack, I would fold my hand. Thinking that if I don't hit the straight or the flush on the turn, I should have to call another bet on the turn and river to go on. On the other hand, if there is indication that he might be bluffing and /or he doesn't have an ace, I might try a semi-bluff on the flop going all-in after he bets 3500. So my decision would be to fold or raise on the flop (depending on the read of the opponent) and fold on the turn (because if you don't hit, practically you lose everything).

[Snydz9]

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I don't believe this statement is correct here.If he has an ace you have just 11outs ( 9Suit: Club and 2 Jacks). I agree this is unlikely but possible (and actually he did have an Ace). 11/47 is your pure pot odds.

There is where you are wrong... assuming he doesn't have teh Ace of clubs wiht another club, any club gives me a flush(9 clubs) any jack a straight (3 jacks) Running K's or Running Queen's. Running K, Q, the equivalent to bout 14 outs. Now that is if he had the ace, even though he did, he didn't play it like an ace, so that's why i figured I was the favorite.

[Fira]

You probably should have re-raised all in on the flop, because it makes it harder for you to call or reraise on the turn with only one card left to come.