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[jlgosse]

I'm going to a buddy's house later, and I was wondering if it's possible for us to both connect to stars under our usernames, as long as we don't sit on the same table.Any help would be grand.

[zimmer4141]

I do it all the time at a friends house. I don't think they can find out when you're at the same table on one connection as long as you aren't blatantly colluding.

[jlgosse]

They can find out, they definately use IP tracking and what-not.For instance, even powerplayer doesn't let you sit on one table with someone from the same IP.NOTE: I was running powerplayer with firefox and my buddy was using IE from the same computer.

[PT0077]

As long as you are not at the same table, it should be no problem.

[justblaze]

PT0077 said:

As long as you are not at the same table, it should be no problem.

[ajs510]

It won't be a problem, I have friends who play online together from the same apartment (same internet connection) and the only time they get blocked is if they try to play the same table. I just read an article about a guy who claims to be clearing $3000+ per day playing multiple accounts on the same table. Dude has something like 10 independent internet connections running into the same room in his house, each with it's own (whatever site it is) poker account. So he can basically play $50 sit-n-go's against himself and 2-3 other players and guarantee wins all day long. Scary...

[kapsig08]

The only time i ever tried it, we werent allowed to do it. One of my buddies called his friend on their cell phones, were trying to get on the same table, and a message popped up saying that they were talking to each other and wouldnt let them on the table, it was really strange, i dont know how it happened.

[Rageur]

kapsig08 said:

The only time i ever tried it, we werent allowed to do it.  One of my buddies called his friend on their cell phones, were trying to get on the same table, and a message popped up saying that they were talking to each other and wouldnt let them on the table, it was really strange, i dont know how it happened.

Huh? Maybe I missed something, but do these sites have agents assigned to each player or what?! You were calling eachother on cell phones, and they knew? Message 'popped' up? You must be joking.

[justblaze]

ajs510 said:

It won't be a problem, I have friends who play online together from the same apartment (same internet connection) and the only time they get blocked is if they try to play the same table.  I just read an article about a guy who claims to be clearing $3000+ per day playing multiple accounts on the same table. Dude has something like 10 independent internet connections running into the same room in his house, each with it's own (whatever site it is) poker account. So he can basically play $50 sit-n-go's against himself and 2-3 other players and guarantee wins all day long.  Scary...

i guarantee he's not clearing $3000 a day sitting 5 deep in a 50$ SNG. first of all, hes got to play 1 at a time, otherwise it would get way to complicated to track all the dead cards. secondly, he's putting $25 of rake into each event, plus $250 in entry fees. 1st is 250, 2nd is 150 and 3rd is 100, so he needs 2 of the top 3 just to break even. he'll need to sweep the top 3 to show a $125 profit which is only a marginal return, and due to the nature of SNG tournaments is highly unlikely on any sort of consistent basis. lets be extremely generous and assume he is sweeping the top 3 every time, he still isnt clearing $3k/day playing 1 at a time (assume 1 hour per tourney) for 24 hours straight.

[dms26]

justblaze said:

ajs510 said:

It won't be a problem, I have friends who play online together from the same apartment (same internet connection) and the only time they get blocked is if they try to play the same table.  I just read an article about a guy who claims to be clearing $3000+ per day playing multiple accounts on the same table. Dude has something like 10 independent internet connections running into the same room in his house, each with it's own (whatever site it is) poker account. So he can basically play $50 sit-n-go's against himself and 2-3 other players and guarantee wins all day long.  Scary...

i guarantee he's not clearing $3000 a day sitting 5 deep in a 50$ SNG. first of all, hes got to play 1 at a time, otherwise it would get way to complicated to track all the dead cards. secondly, he's putting $25 of rake into each event, plus $250 in entry fees. 1st is 250, 2nd is 150 and 3rd is 100, so he needs 2 of the top 3 just to break even. he'll need to sweep the top 3 to show a $125 profit which is only a marginal return, and due to the nature of SNG tournaments is highly unlikely on any sort of consistent basis. lets be extremely generous and assume he is sweeping the top 3 every time, he still isnt clearing $3k/day playing 1 at a time (assume 1 hour per tourney) for 24 hours straight.

Pfffff, quit trying to use logic.

[kapsig08]

Rageur said:

kapsig08 said:

The only time i ever tried it, we werent allowed to do it.  One of my buddies called his friend on their cell phones, were trying to get on the same table, and a message popped up saying that they were talking to each other and wouldnt let them on the table, it was really strange, i dont know how it happened.

Huh? Maybe I missed something, but do these sites have agents assigned to each player or what?! You were calling eachother on cell phones, and they knew? Message 'popped' up? You must be joking.

I promise man, my roomate at school was talking to one of our buddies that lives down the street. they were trying to enter the same tourney on prtyp, and our friend sat down first and when my roomate tried to sit down the message said that he was conversing on a cellular device with another player at the table, and he couldnt enter the tournament. i saw it with my own eyes, we couldnt believe it happened, and still dont know how it did

[ajs510]

dms26 said:

justblaze said:

ajs510 said:

It won't be a problem, I have friends who play online together from the same apartment (same internet connection) and the only time they get blocked is if they try to play the same table.  I just read an article about a guy who claims to be clearing $3000+ per day playing multiple accounts on the same table. Dude has something like 10 independent internet connections running into the same room in his house, each with it's own (whatever site it is) poker account. So he can basically play $50 sit-n-go's against himself and 2-3 other players and guarantee wins all day long.  Scary...

i guarantee he's not clearing $3000 a day sitting 5 deep in a 50$ SNG. first of all, hes got to play 1 at a time, otherwise it would get way to complicated to track all the dead cards. secondly, he's putting $25 of rake into each event, plus $250 in entry fees. 1st is 250, 2nd is 150 and 3rd is 100, so he needs 2 of the top 3 just to break even. he'll need to sweep the top 3 to show a $125 profit which is only a marginal return, and due to the nature of SNG tournaments is highly unlikely on any sort of consistent basis. lets be extremely generous and assume he is sweeping the top 3 every time, he still isnt clearing $3k/day playing 1 at a time (assume 1 hour per tourney) for 24 hours straight.

Pfffff, quit trying to use logic.

The $50 tourney's were just an example Literal Boy...How's this for a better one, you're playing 100-200 at a 6 handed table against 5 accounts being played by the same player. How badly do you think the best player in the world would get schooled under those conditions?

[nealdo17]

ajs510 said:

dms26 said:

justblaze said:

ajs510 said:

It won't be a problem, I have friends who play online together from the same apartment (same internet connection) and the only time they get blocked is if they try to play the same table.  I just read an article about a guy who claims to be clearing $3000+ per day playing multiple accounts on the same table. Dude has something like 10 independent internet connections running into the same room in his house, each with it's own (whatever site it is) poker account. So he can basically play $50 sit-n-go's against himself and 2-3 other players and guarantee wins all day long.  Scary...

i guarantee he's not clearing $3000 a day sitting 5 deep in a 50$ SNG. first of all, hes got to play 1 at a time, otherwise it would get way to complicated to track all the dead cards. secondly, he's putting $25 of rake into each event, plus $250 in entry fees. 1st is 250, 2nd is 150 and 3rd is 100, so he needs 2 of the top 3 just to break even. he'll need to sweep the top 3 to show a $125 profit which is only a marginal return, and due to the nature of SNG tournaments is highly unlikely on any sort of consistent basis. lets be extremely generous and assume he is sweeping the top 3 every time, he still isnt clearing $3k/day playing 1 at a time (assume 1 hour per tourney) for 24 hours straight.

Pfffff, quit trying to use logic.

The $50 tourney's were just an example Literal Boy...How's this for a better one, you're playing 100-200 at a 6 handed table against 5 accounts being played by the same player. How badly do you think the best player in the world would get schooled under those conditions?

Justblaze owned you and you calling him Literal Boy made you get even more owned

[nealdo17]

Whats worse than owned. . . thats right justblaze has officially SERVED you!

[justblaze]

ajs510 said:

dms26 said:

justblaze said:

ajs510 said:

It won't be a problem, I have friends who play online together from the same apartment (same internet connection) and the only time they get blocked is if they try to play the same table.  I just read an article about a guy who claims to be clearing $3000+ per day playing multiple accounts on the same table. Dude has something like 10 independent internet connections running into the same room in his house, each with it's own (whatever site it is) poker account. So he can basically play $50 sit-n-go's against himself and 2-3 other players and guarantee wins all day long.  Scary...

i guarantee he's not clearing $3000 a day sitting 5 deep in a 50$ SNG. first of all, hes got to play 1 at a time, otherwise it would get way to complicated to track all the dead cards. secondly, he's putting $25 of rake into each event, plus $250 in entry fees. 1st is 250, 2nd is 150 and 3rd is 100, so he needs 2 of the top 3 just to break even. he'll need to sweep the top 3 to show a $125 profit which is only a marginal return, and due to the nature of SNG tournaments is highly unlikely on any sort of consistent basis. lets be extremely generous and assume he is sweeping the top 3 every time, he still isnt clearing $3k/day playing 1 at a time (assume 1 hour per tourney) for 24 hours straight.

Pfffff, quit trying to use logic.

The $50 tourney's were just an example Literal Boy...How's this for a better one, you're playing 100-200 at a 6 handed table against 5 accounts being played by the same player. How badly do you think the best player in the world would get schooled under those conditions?

depends on how competent the colluder/s were. Against a skilled colluder, no one stands a chance. against your average idiot colluder, you could make a lot of money. good collusion is far different from (and far more complicated than) good play. At limits below 10-20, its distinctly unprofitable long-term due to the rake. At limits above this, a sharp player could pick up on it and exploit it. most colluders have no idea what theyre doing, and the ones that do tend to avoid good players because optimal collusion would be pretty obvious to a sharp player. All im saying is its easier said than done, and that if hes playing SNGs with 10 dedicated connections hes likely barely covering his costs.

[ajs510]

I'm just repeating what I read, it isn't anything I know for a fact to be true. Still, it's an interesting idea. In order for it to work, you would have to have 10 different Stars accounts fed by 10 different Neteller accounts fed by 10 different bank accounts under 10 different names. It would be easier to just form a team.

[KappaKid83]

PT0077 said:

As long as you are not at the same table, it should be no problem.

[Rageur]

kapsig08 said:

Rageur said:

kapsig08 said:

The only time i ever tried it, we werent allowed to do it.  One of my buddies called his friend on their cell phones, were trying to get on the same table, and a message popped up saying that they were talking to each other and wouldnt let them on the table, it was really strange, i dont know how it happened.

Huh? Maybe I missed something, but do these sites have agents assigned to each player or what?! You were calling eachother on cell phones, and they knew? Message 'popped' up? You must be joking.

I promise man, my roomate at school was talking to one of our buddies that lives down the street. they were trying to enter the same tourney on prtyp, and our friend sat down first and when my roomate tried to sit down the message said that he was conversing on a cellular device with another player at the table, and he couldnt enter the tournament. i saw it with my own eyes, we couldnt believe it happened, and still dont know how it did

You couldn't believe it happened, and you were there. I really don't believe it happened. Anyone else have a comment on this? The Patriot act meets partyPoker?

[ajs510]

There's no way a poker site could have plucked two cellular signals out of thin air, linked the two calls together, and made a determination that the two players should not be allowed to sit at the same table in the span of a couple of minutes. I doubt even the NSA could pull off that move. If they actually did manage to do that, then the FCC needs to be notified, cause it's illegal as hell. The only way I can kinda see this being possible is if they were using their cell phones to log in to the site remotely, and talking on them to each other at the same time.Either that, or one of the two made some comment in one of the chatrooms that was noticed. Or it's a made up story.*Edit* Of course...online poker itself is illegal as hell, so I guess the FCC would be the least of their worries...

[T0xic]

ajs510 said:

The $50 tourney's were just an example Literal Boy...How's this for a better one, you're playing 100-200 at a 6 handed table against 5 accounts being played by the same player. How badly do you think the best player in the world would get schooled under those conditions?

Wouldn't the Site catch on to the fact of the same 5 IP addresses are playing at the same 6 max table all of the time?Please tell me they would.