2-7 off 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Just a question on what you guys do in this situation. Playing limit holdem lets say you get dealt a so so hand of ex. (K-J off)You call from mid position and get raised do you call or fold?P.s Doesnt have to be K-J off but any mediocore hand.Thanks in Advance Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Just a question on what you guys do in this situation. Playing limit holdem lets say you get dealt a so so hand of ex. (K-J off)You call from mid position and get raised do you call or fold?P.s Doesnt have to be K-J off but any mediocore hand.Thanks in Advancehow many limpers in front of you? read on the raiser? how many called bet already? in general, there is pretty much no two hands where the math justifies folding for 1 extra bet here. With that said, id be pretty hesitanat about limping from MP with KJo in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
Canada 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Always call 1 more preflop after limping.If its 2 (ie a raise and a reraise) more then let the weaker hands go.There is a rare occasion when you can let it go for 1, but by the time you need to know that... you will.limping with KJo is fine in MP in all but the most TA games Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Always call 1 more preflop after limping.If its 2 (ie a raise and a reraise) more then let the weaker hands go.There is a rare occasion when you can let it go for 1, but by the time you need to know that... you will.limping with KJo is fine in MP in all but the most TA gamesi really dont see how you can let it go for 1 bet. say you are a 4-1 dog (which is a pretty extreme read for 1 raise). You have your call, the big blind, the small blind, and 2 more bets from the raiser. theres 4.5sb in the pot, and 1 to you for better than the 4-1 pot odds you would need to justify the call. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 There is a rare occasion when you can let it go for 1No, there aren't.There are occasions where you should have folded instead of playing the hand, but none where you fold to one more, UNLESS you think it quite likely it's going to end up 3 or more bets before the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I'm on the fence about completing with marnial hands from the SB and then calling the BB's raise. Of course it depends how many players are in, but you're only getting half the pot odds the second time around.Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I'm on the fence about completing with marnial hands from the SB and then calling the BB's raise. Of course it depends how many players are in, but you're only getting half the pot odds the second time around.Thoughts?Are you talking about if it's folded to the SB? Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Are you talking about if it's folded to the SB?No. Let's say there's an open limp from MP, a call from Button, I complete with 82s or something, and BB raises. If it is folded to the SB then I usually raise or fold, occaisionally I will complete, but I would call a raise if I complete. Link to post Share on other sites
Canada 0 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 There is a rare occasion when you can let it go for 1No, there aren't.There are occasions where you should have folded instead of playing the hand, but none where you fold to one more, UNLESS you think it quite likely it's going to end up 3 or more bets before the flop.The occasion I am talking about Smash, is where the small blind is 2/3 of a bet.For example in a 15/30 game the SB is 10 and it is correct to complete with almost any 2, however if the BB raises behind you there are hands you can fold. Link to post Share on other sites
avsfan 0 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 You should call one. The real conflict is when to call two. Link to post Share on other sites
Canada 0 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 You should call one. The real conflict is when to call two.There is no conflict with KJo though. Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhite 0 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Call one, but don't cap the betting if you hit a king or jack on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
avsfan 0 Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 You should call one. The real conflict is when to call two.There is no conflict with KJo though. Ever, Ever? Link to post Share on other sites
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