popeye18 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 No reads.Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.plPreflop: Hero is SB with J, J. MP posts a blind of $1. UTG raises, MP (poster) calls, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG caps, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.Flop: (17 SB) 5, K, 7 (4 players)Hero...Whats your line from here? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Suits? And, I'm probably peeling one off in a pot this large. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 check to UTG (pre-flop capper), and call one bet.your intent is to hit a set on the turn or pick up a draw (if you have a BD flush draw on the flop), and if not, check-fold the turn.this line might be a little passive.i posted a very similar hand entitled "am i a fish or was this okay?", where i had queens in a capped pre-flop four-way pot. the flop came ace-high, i peeled one off and picked up a flush draw, called another bet and hit a set on the river.a lot of people said i should be betting it, but i disagreed.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Three-bet's a little light out of position. Link to post Share on other sites
BeanGW 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 check to UTG (pre-flop capper), and call one bet.your intent is to hit a set on the turn or pick up a draw (if you have a BD flush draw on the flop), and if not, check-fold the turn.this line might be a little passive.This line sounds perfect to me. I think Jacks are fairing pretty lousy with this much action, but at the same time the pot is now too big to consider folding for one SB.I also think that three-betting preflop from out of position is fairly lousy. With this much action you are pretty much chip spewing if a Q, K, or Ace falls and you feel the need to make a continuation bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Rocketwadster 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Check/call the flop, if it's one bet to you. If two-cold, get out. :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
jayboogie 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 also you should have just called the raise out of position instead of 3 betting, it's a multi-way pot and your out of position with only jacks, an overcard hits the flop majority of the time. Your hand only looks good when you spike a J or have an overpair, which won't happen the majority of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Three-bet's a little light out of position.i was about to ask why till i saw he was SB. definitely a loose 3 bet. Link to post Share on other sites
idiotbocs 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 i would agree if it would 3-bets to us in the sb to go ahead and just call instead of cap, but when it's only a raise, im 3-betting every time. Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 i would agree if it would 3-bets to us in the sb to go ahead and just call instead of cap, but when it's only a raise, im 3-betting every time.kinda leaves you in a sticky situation on this flop, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 I'm with idiotbocs..which I'm sure scares him.All we have is one rasie and 2 calls (one a poster)can we not figure to have adequate equity to raise here, against at least 3 to 5 opponents?This would be a good time to teach:If we are on the Button, everyone agrees we R/R ? or not ?Heck, maybe we fold preflop, if 1 more bet is so bad..then we save 2 sb's...its' so confusing :? Only after the UTG cap are we thinking, we could be behind a bigger pair, for sure. Right? And we procedd accordingly. (this is where I stop advising) ..but just for kicks...call 1 bet on flop...and fold turn UI. Link to post Share on other sites
popeye18 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Three-bet's a little light out of position.i thought this was standard Link to post Share on other sites
justblaze 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Three-bet's a little light out of position.i thought this was standardfrom SB? not exactly. Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 i would agree if it would 3-bets to us in the sb to go ahead and just call instead of cap, but when it's only a raise, im 3-betting every time.Eh.I think it's close. I'm more inclined to C/R a favorable flop to see where I am than to get the money in preflop.You might be right. Link to post Share on other sites
akishore 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 smash, your new signature ROCKS.i love it.aseem Link to post Share on other sites
idiotbocs 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 smash, your new signature ROCKS. Link to post Share on other sites
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