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***** Hand History for Game 2367966569 *****$25 PL Omaha - Friday, July 15, 14:19:27 EDT 2005Table Table 37075 (Real Money)Seat 1 is the buttonTotal number of players : 9 Seat 1: Colourful ( $7.65 )Seat 3: Deanna_Mc ( $4.60 )Seat 4: zbirac ( $26.42 )Seat 5: luca880 ( $0 )Seat 7: planeboat ( $27.31 )Seat 10: bri2bones ( $22.83 )Seat 2: Hero ( $24 )Seat 6: OMlawdog ( $37.75 )Seat 8: tensharp ( $25 )RiverDizzle posts small blind [$0.10].Deanna_Mc posts big blind [$0.25].tensharp posts big blind [$0.25].** Dealing down cards **Dealt to Hero [ Qc Js Kc Ac ]luca880 has left the table.zbirac folds.OMlawdog folds.planeboat calls [$0.25].tensharp checks.bri2bones folds.Colourful calls [$0.25].Hero calls [$0.15].Deanna_Mc checks.** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Ks, 4h ]Hero checks.Deanna_Mc checks.planeboat checks.tensharp checks.Colourful checks.** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]Hero checks.Deanna_Mc checks.planeboat bets [$0.25].tensharp raises [$0.50].Colourful folds.Hero calls [$0.50].Deanna_Mc folds.planeboat raises [$2.75].tensharp folds.Should I have just folded there? Half the deck is bad for me, not to mention if the board pairs. I'm beginning to ****ing hate PLO players that go crazy when they have the nuts.

[gobears]

Looks like you have 14 clean outs to at least 1/2 the pot. (3 9's, 3 J's, 3 Q's, 3 K's and 2 Aces). I fold this as it doesn't look like you're getting the right odds. Too many chances of getting quartered or getting nothing.Nice min-bump by Tensharp there too!

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gobears said:

Looks like you have 14 clean outs to at least 1/2 the pot. (3 9's, 3 J's, 3 Q's, 3 K's and 2 Aces). I fold this as it doesn't look like you're getting the right odds. Too many chances of getting quartered or getting nothing.Nice min-bump by Tensharp there too!

Probably the biggest argument I can come up with for folding is that nobody can have the bad end of the straight at this point. If they're in there ramming and jamming on the turn, I'm chopping the pot or up against somebody with serious outs against me. It's at best a break-even call.That min-bump really pisses me off. :roll:

[CobaltBlue]

You do notice that you have the redraw to the nut full house, right?

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CobaltBlue said:

You do notice that you have the redraw to the nut full house, right?

I didn't even notice that... :?

[KDawgCometh]

I'd raise it PF, bet out a $1 on the flop, and reraise the Pot on the turn when you get raised. you have the nut straight and you are free rolling to the nut full house. thte only thing you don't want to see right now is a heart on the river, you have a monster hand right now

[CobaltBlue]

KDawgCometh said:

thte only thing you don't want to see right now is a heart on the river

He probably doesn't want to see a spade either.

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KDawgCometh said:

I'd raise it PF, bet out a $1 on the flop, and reraise the Pot on the turn when you get raised. you have the nut straight and you are free rolling to the nut full house. thte only thing you don't want to see right now is a heart on the river, you have a monster hand right now

What about a spade, or a non-AK pairing card? A lot of people are in there drawing with random hands.Why bet out on the flop? They aren't folding. I know it seems passive to check-call all the time, but what other option do I have with a straight draw and a table full of people that don't fold? I wait for the nuts to open up, and they never seem to notice that about me.I really don't think it's a monster, even though I do have 4 outs to the nut full house and the nuts right now. QsJs, for isntance, has me at a sizeable disadvantage.One of the bigger mistakes I always try to avoid is jamming when I'm sharing the nuts with somebody but also letting them freeroll--I see it all the time, and it's a horrible, horrible mistake. After realizing that I do have a draw to the nut full house, I think this is worth a call... but not a raise, and I do pretty much have to give it up if a heart or a spade hits.(BTW, I was up against QsJsxx in this hand, and the river did bring a spade, and like a fish I paid off his $2 milk bet on the end)

[KDawgCometh]

CobaltBlue said:

KDawgCometh said:

thte only thing you don't want to see right now is a heart on the river

He probably doesn't want to see a spade either.

good look