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[Actuary]

do I have enuf to call..flop call, then calling raise, I think is standard. maybe I need more players in pot, but just going by beginners guide.With pair and back door draws, and getting 9:1, flop call ok, right.Then turn brings me closer to the flush...and geting around 5:1, and 6-7 : 1 implied odds.My question is, Is my flush strong enuf to warrant this? I figured being a backdoor draw that he was less likely betting that.Even though this was a win, I want to make sure I'm not chasing improperly.,Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Actuary is CO with 8c, 7c. UTG posts a blind of $0.5. UTG (poster) checks, 2 folds, UTG calls, MP3 calls, Actuary calls.Flop: (9 SB) 6h, Qc, 7h (5 players)SB bets, UTG folds, MP3 folds, Actuary calls.Turn: (5.50 BB) 3c (3 players)SB bets, Actuary calls.River: (7.50 BB) Ac (3 players)SB bets, SB calls.Final Pot: 11.50 BB

[econ_tim]

This is fine, especially since he paid off your river raise.

[Smasharoo]

Standard oil.You'd raise the flop if it was checked to MP3 and he bet, right?

[Smasharoo]

hmmm.... remember posting a hand nearly identical to this....and getting bashed, funny how people thinkNearly identical but it was 4 cold to you on a AAA flop.Link the hand in question. Let's see how identical it is.Fish.

[Smasharoo]

1 folded, Button raised, SB folded, I called(I was bashed heavily for this call)Yeah it's a good call on the button and a shity one in the SB.do you see why?

[Smasharoo]

B) getting 3.5/1 to call, which makes it a mathematically correct call against pretty much any hand except 88-AA, and 4 handed when the button raises, you cant put him on those hand right away Yes, but you're horrendous post-flop.You should fold a lot more hands than most people.

[Smasharoo]

me and him both hand middle pairs and called bets, his is fine, but mine sucks He and I.You're terrible.People give you bad advice on purpose so you'll loose money.No one likes you is why.

[blinky]

Actuary said:

do I have enuf to call..flop call, then calling raise, I think is standard. maybe I need more players in pot, but just going by beginners guide.

you should be raising that flop, then be delighted when ur backdoor draw materializes and raise the turn, as it is you won a small pot by playing defensively when you could have won (or potentially lost) a large pot by playing aggressively.

[econ_tim]

blinky said:

you should be raising that flop, then be delighted when ur backdoor draw materializes and raise the turn, as it is you won a small pot by playing defensively when you could have won (or potentially lost) a large pot by playing aggressively.

What are you talking about?

[KDawgCometh]

I think a turn raise might not be a bad idea. You can get a free showdown a lot, and pick up an extra BB when you do improve your hand(then again, this play works at higher limits than .5/1, but if my thinking is off, let me know)

[Actuary]

You'd raise the flop if it was checked to MP3 and he bet, right?I would not. Not because I think I shouldn't, but because I don't know better. I'd likely think I want to keep more players in the pot, in case my flush/trips/two pair hits. I'm figuring I'm behind MP3 if he bets and would rather not go to showdown against one player. Are u suggesting the raise (under that scenario) because it's likely I'm ahead of mp3 and want to get the others to have to call 2 cold? Or to give me a free river..or many reasons?..thanks Smash.Kdawg:I didn't think about raising the turn, since I figured I was behind and didn't want to call a 3-bet, if that occurred. Bad thinking?thanks.