quads at fcp table (lc)

[econ_tim 0]

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (5 handed) converterPreflop: econ_tim is Button with [9d], [9c]. 2 folds, SB (mystery guest) calls, BB (idiotbocs) calls.Flop: (6 SB) [4s], [9s], [9h] (3 players)mystery guest checks, idiotbocs bets, idiotbocs calls, econ_tim calls.Turn: (6 BB) [Kh] (3 players)mystery guest bets, idiotbocs calls, econ_tim calls.River: (9 BB) [6c] (3 players)mystery guest bets, mystery guest calls.Final Pot: 17 BB

[akishore 0]

LC = low content?aseem

[econ_tim 0]

LC = low content

[akishore 0]

i'm pretty sure that mystery guest has, in order of likelihood:a) 4-4B) 6-6c) 5-5 / 7-7 / 8-8it also looks like chris had a flush draw, and i don't like how he played it.aseem

[econ_tim 0]

how would you play flush draw in chris's position?check to PFR with the intention of raising if SB calls and calling otherwise?

[akishore 0]

check to PFR with the intention of raising if SB calls and calling otherwise

aseem

[idiotbocs 0]

why?this is a decent flop to semi-bluff at with a flush draw and what seemed to be two live pair outs.

[econ_tim 0]

What flush draw did you have, idiotbocs?I think you would have 3-bet any suited Broadways preflop, but maybe I'm wrong.We know that you don't have a King.And you probably put me on overs, so I'm leaning toward hands like T8s.

[bdc30 0]

Why no raise on the turn, with a bet and a call in front of you?Two guaranteed callers, and you might get lucky and have one of the others re-raise.

[econ_tim 0]

Why no raise on the turn, with a bet and a call  in front of you?Two guaranteed callers, and you might get lucky  and have one of the others re-raise.

I think the bettor's turn line might be bet/fold and I don't want to lose him. But raising still might be correct.

[bdc30 0]

He check/raises the flop, then bet/folds the turn?Not usually--I would think you might even geta raise out of him more often than not.

[idiotbocs 0]

Q ,8

[econ_tim 0]

Q ,8

Well I got one of the hole cards right :-)

[bdc30 0]

bocs, you're calling a turn raise with your flush drawafter you already have one bet in there right?

[idiotbocs 0]

bocs, you're calling a turn raise with your flush drawafter you already have one bet in there right?

of coarse, i'd call

[econ_tim 0]

He check/raises the flop, then bet/folds the turn?Not usually--I would think you might even geta raise out of him more often than not.

What do you think he's c/r ing flop with (using only the action up to the turn as a guide)?I think he would 3-bet an overpair preflop.And probably not 4x.We know he doesn't have a nine.He could have a flush draw with a 4, or maybe a pocket pair.I don't think he would c/r with overcards, but maybe so.Anyway, the king could be a scary card for the bettor, but I guess he calls often enough to make raising the turn OK. I'm not sure how raising the turn will affect the action if no one improves on the river.

[bdc30 0]

interesting point about affecting the river actionwith a turn raise.that's why i love discussing this stuff though, thereis really no RIGHT answer for every situation.I agree that the king was a scare card, but younever know, somebody may have one (or even better, two)and re-up your bet.