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Ultimate Bet 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: econ_tim is UTG+1 with [Kc], [Qh]. MP2 posts a blind of $1. UTG calls, econ_tim raises, UTG calls.Flop: (9.50 SB) [Td], [Js], [Ac] (4 players)UTG checks, econ_tim bets, UTG calls, econ_tim calls.Turn: (7.75 BB) [8s] (3 players)UTG checks, econ_tim checks, CO bets, CO calls, UTG calls.River: (13.75 BB) [8d] (3 players)UTG checks, econ_tim bets, CO calls, UTG calls.Final Pot: 16.75 BBRight to trap UTG here?Don't worry Custom, Empire is next.

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Hi, this isn't "trapping"It's a stop and go.
OK. I'm just trying to get the hapless UTG to call as many bets as possible. Maybe I need to work on my poker jargon. Can't I trap him with my stop and go? :-)
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Hi, this isn't "trapping"It's a stop and go.
no it's not.a stop and go would mean OP led the turn.he didn't. :club: aseem
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It's just a semantic thing. If you check/called the flop and then raised the turn...that'd be "trapping".This is, of course, the much better line (yours).
he was OOP. he bet/called the turn and check/raised the turn.almost identical line to calling the flop and raising the turn if he was in position.they're both trapping, no?aseem
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they're both trapping, no? No.Trapping, you show weakness with stregnth, then raise. Stop and go, you show stregnth, flat call a raise indicating some weakness inducing a bet on a bigger street which you raise.

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hmm. i was under the impression that a stop and go was:i'm SB with K-K. flop comes K-7-2. i bet, button raises, i call. turn comes 4, i bet.(i stopped on the raise and "go"-ed on the turn by leading out.)if a stop and go is also flat-calling a raise and check-raising the turn (rather than leading the turn), okay.aseem

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Maybe this is the thread to revive the "implied odds" vs. "inferred odds" controversy.
lmao. :club: aseem
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