psujohn 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [9s], [9c]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.5. UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, UTG calls.Flop: (15.50 SB) [8d], [Td], [Jc] (7 players)UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, UTG calls.Turn: (16.75 BB) [7c] (6 players)UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.River: (28.75 BB) [3c] (6 players)UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, Button bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls.Final Pot: 31.75 BBProbably should have raised or call/raised the turn but I was hoping to keep lots of people in. Didn't bet the River for fear of the flush. Thoughts?BTW, BB had KK, UTG+1 88. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Probably should have raised or call/raised the turn but I was hoping to keep lots of people in. Didn't bet the River for fear of the flush. Really no need to be scared of it, it was runner-runner, and it was capped on the flop, i dont see that many cases of a flush hereAnd yeahturn I kinda like just calling, raising almost gives away the str8, let the 2 riases keep firing at eachotherbet river Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 5 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 3-bet the turn. You're in great position to get a lot more BB's in. Then lead out the river. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Probably should have raised or call/raised the turn but I was hoping to keep lots of people in. Didn't bet the River for fear of the flush. Really no need to be scared of it, it was runner-runner, and it was capped on the flop, i dont see that many cases of a flush hereAnd yeahturn I kinda like just calling, raising almost gives away the str8, let the 2 riases keep firing at eachotherbet riverthis is bad advice, do you see why Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Probably should have raised or call/raised the turn but I was hoping to keep lots of people in. Didn't bet the River for fear of the flush. Really no need to be scared of it, it was runner-runner, and it was capped on the flop, i dont see that many cases of a flush hereAnd yeahturn I kinda like just calling, raising almost gives away the str8, let the 2 riases keep firing at eachotherbet riverthis is bad advice, do you see whyId like to see you explainIm not saying i disagree, everyone has thier own opinions, it just kinda buggs me we people do what you just did"That advice is bad" then give no reason, im sure you have one, and a good one too, just like to hear it Link to post Share on other sites
Smasharoo 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Cap the flop, cap the turn, check/call the river. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Probably should have raised or call/raised the turn but I was hoping to keep lots of people in. Didn't bet the River for fear of the flush. Really no need to be scared of it, it was runner-runner, and it was capped on the flop, i dont see that many cases of a flush hereAnd yeahturn I kinda like just calling, raising almost gives away the str8, let the 2 riases keep firing at eachotherbet riverthis is bad advice, do you see whyId like to see you explainIm not saying i disagree, everyone has thier own opinions, it just kinda buggs me we people do what you just did"That advice is bad" then give no reason, im sure you have one, and a good one too, just like to hear ityes, I do have a reason, and it is good, I just want to hear your line of thinking before I give it. I don't want to give it out before you try to relaize why its wrong first, ya know Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I just thought rasing the turn would slow down pretty much everyone w/o a 9, If i was in this hand now re-thinking it, I woulda 3 bet it once the button raisedand again, no need to be scared of back door flush on this hand, bet river Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I just thought rasing the turn would slow down pretty much everyone w/o a 9, If i was in this hand now re-thinking it, I woulda 3 bet it once the button raisedand again, no need to be scared of back door flush on this hand, bet riveryou're dong a good job of ignoring the diamond draw that people could very well be drawing to. plus, I would be concious of the backdoor draw since people who are gong for it are priced in. YOu need to protect your hand in this massive pot by doing lots of raising, you don't want to keep people in, you want to maximize your chances of winning the pot Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I just thought rasing the turn would slow down pretty much everyone w/o a 9, If i was in this hand now re-thinking it, I woulda 3 bet it once the button raisedand again, no need to be scared of back door flush on this hand, bet riveryou're dong a good job of ignoring the diamond draw that people could very well be drawing to. plus, I would be concious of the backdoor draw since people who are gong for it are priced in. YOu need to protect your hand in this massive pot by doing lots of raising, you don't want to keep people in, you want to maximize your chances of winning the potgood point Link to post Share on other sites
idiotbocs 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I like the way you played it.Street by street. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I just thought rasing the turn would slow down pretty much everyone w/o a 9, If i was in this hand now re-thinking it, I woulda 3 bet it once the button raisedand again, no need to be scared of back door flush on this hand, bet riveryou're dong a good job of ignoring the diamond draw that people could very well be drawing to. plus, I would be concious of the backdoor draw since people who are gong for it are priced in. YOu need to protect your hand in this massive pot by doing lots of raising, you don't want to keep people in, you want to maximize your chances of winning the potI don't understand this line of reasoning. Based on the action, how does raising the turn protect your hand? At all? There are 17 bets in before turn action begins. If UTG magically tossed in 4 bets (and then stole one, while nobody was looking) a diamond draw would STILL be able to cold-call in his sleep here.And I disagree that our concern here is "maximizing our chances of winning the pot." We're trying to make the pot as big as we can make it w/o hurting our chances of losing the pot. There's a slight difference. I think.Ice Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I just thought rasing the turn would slow down pretty much everyone w/o a 9, If i was in this hand now re-thinking it, I woulda 3 bet it once the button raisedand again, no need to be scared of back door flush on this hand, bet riveryou're dong a good job of ignoring the diamond draw that people could very well be drawing to. plus, I would be concious of the backdoor draw since people who are gong for it are priced in. YOu need to protect your hand in this massive pot by doing lots of raising, you don't want to keep people in, you want to maximize your chances of winning the potI don't understand this line of reasoning. Based on the action, how does raising the turn protect your hand? At all? There are 17 bets in before turn action begins. If UTG magically tossed in 4 bets (and then stole one, while nobody was looking) a diamond draw would STILL be able to cold-call in his sleep here.And I disagree that our concern here is "maximizing our chances of winning the pot." We're trying to make the pot as big as we can make it w/o hurting our chances of losing the pot. There's a slight difference. I think.IceYeah i dont think many people would fold if OP raised the turn, but If he did, the chaser(s) would of called probably, and the 70%-ish time where the board doesnt pair and diamonds dont come, youre going to win a bigger pot.....right? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 The check/call on the turn is reasonable, I guess...but you gotta 3-bet it when it gets back to you. Link to post Share on other sites
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