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[tekn0wledg]

I only play this hand from late position in an unraised pot. I will raise with it if suited as well.I don't like playing hands like this generally though because of the AJ potential or KQ potential.

[Smasharoo]

I would like to hear some of your responses to this and im wondering if yall have noticed the same thing.KJ sucks. Most people don't raise AJ unless they are first in.It'd help a little if you perhaps explained WHAT GAME you're talking about and how you play it.

[Smasharoo]

6 or 7 isn't really shorthanded.What GAME were you talking about, Limit, NL, PL?

[Smasharoo]

6 or 7 isn't really shorthanded.What GAME were you talking about, Limit, NL, PL?

[Wlleiotl]

I love KJ as well.It means i get called down a lot if i hit my K or J with KQ or AJ when ive limped.

[MaxStrick]

Smasharoo said:

6 or 7 isn't really shorthanded.What GAME were you talking about, Limit, NL, PL?

LOL, 6 handed, is the DEFINITION of shorthanded play. WSOP this year, the shorthanded tournaments will be played 6 handed.

[Smasharoo]

LOL, 6 handed, is the DEFINITION of shorthanded play.No, really it isn't. It's shorter than 10 handed but plays not much diffrent than a 10 person game.I think of 3-4 people as shorthanded. I think most experienced players feel the same.

[PukaPlaya]

6 or less is considered shorthanded by most people.

[MaxStrick]

Smasharoo said:

LOL, 6 handed, is the DEFINITION of shorthanded play.No, really it isn't. It's shorter than 10 handed but plays not much diffrent than a 10 person game.I think of 3-4 people as shorthanded. I think most experienced players feel the same.

Then you and your "experienced" players would be wrong. Sorry, but it's a fact, 6 handed is shorthanded play.

[Smasharoo]

Then you and your "experienced" players would be wrong. Sorry, but it's a fact, 6 handed is shorthanded play.Again, no.6 player max tables are called "shorthanded" tables because you're more likely to see 3 or 4 people than you are at a 10 person table.6 isn't particularly shorthanded.It's a matter of oppinion, there is no "definition" of it. If you read any short handed theory it's not about playing with 6 people at the table. You're confusing two diffrent uses of the term.

[JaysonWeber]

Well it does depend on how many people are playing in the game, with a full ring game 9-10, depending on the players I'm playing with, sometimes I'll even raise with it UTG (if they are the type to cold call not re-raise pre-flop), but most of the time I'll only raise with this from late position.I consider 6 player a shorthanded game, and I will open up my starting hands relative to the number of players, so with that in mind, in a 6 handed game I'll ussually raise from mid-late position with this hand, and possibly from early position.

[MaxStrick]

Smasharoo said:

Again, no.6 player max tables are called "shorthanded" tables because you're more likely to see 3 or 4 people than you are at a 10 person table.6 isn't particularly shorthanded.It's a matter of oppinion, there is no "definition" of it.  If you read any short handed theory it's not about playing with 6 people at the table.  You're confusing two diffrent uses of the term.

Then why are 6 person tables played at SHORTHANDED tournaments, where there will be table changes and a full table of 6 at most times?I agree with you that it is can be an opinion, but the MAJORITY opinion is that 6 person is the beginning of shorthanded play.Eh, go argue with Matt Savage.

[NYSPOKER]

Smasharoo said:

No, really it isn't.  It's shorter than 10 handed but plays not much diffrent than a 10 person game.

Got to disagree, here. Especially, if we are talking limit; even more so if the game is raked. A six-handed game would play much differently than a full 9/10 handed game.Blinds come around much faster, and the rake is more substantial. Opening hand requirements loosen up, considerably.

[Smasharoo]

Again, two diffrent terms.Your starting hand requirements shouldn't really be that much looser on a 6-max table. Your raising requirements should be less restrictive.If you're playing TJo because there's 6 people instead of 10 you're going to lose a lot of money.

[Mandelbrot]

Most ppl consider 6 to be the number at which game play differs meaningfully.

[Smasharoo]

Most ppl consider 6 to be the number at which game play differs meaningfully.I guess that explains all the horrible loose play at 6-max tables.

[MaxStrick]

Smasharoo said:

Most ppl consider 6 to be the number at which game play differs meaningfully.I guess that explains all the horrible loose play at 6-max tables.

Guess so.