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[kinghill]

I didn't think that much about this hand at the time, but looking back I think I may have had good enough odds to call to see the flop? would have had to call 465 to a 2145 pot. I probably wouldn't have got any action from the BB though, so I'd assume 2145 would have been final pot size.Or maybe I should have just folded preflop, but I wasn't thinking the BB would raise me at the time, and thought having 2 players go against the allin guy would help assure he'd be outany thoughts on my play here... i'm Hero of course - would have made flush on turn.======================PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converterUTG+1 (t12320)MP1 (t10313)MP2 (t12146)MP3 (t7573)CO (t14486)Button (t2240)Hero (t8865)BB (t15690)UTG (t560)Preflop: Hero is SB with [Jc], [5c]. UTG raises to t535, Hero folds.Flop: (t2145) [Kc], [9c], [3h] (2 players)Turn: (t2145) [Qc] (2 players)River: (t2145) [2c] (2 players)Final Pot: t2145Results in white below: BB has As Jh (high card, ace). UTG has 7h 7s (one pair, sevens). Outcome: UTG wins t2145. ======================

[speedz99]

I fold J5 to a raise every time.

[Actuary]

but given that you did not...I think I would see the flop for that price, realizing that the button may very well push all in on the flop. He's already put in half his stack and is down to 5x BB, when he could've let you deal with the all in alone. I don't see him letting you check it down. So I disagree with "not getting any action from BB" part..but you played with him, I'm speculating. I'm figuring the BB will move in on the flop so there implied odds to call as well. I feel good about my SnG play, short stacked as well, so I might gamble here.edit: I always mess up what I mean. You are not shrt stacked..I mean if you lose, and feel good about yuor skills, you can recover..thats it. Some players need chips to play there styles, others, can find te right spots to accumualte without a big stack if need be.back to the answer: fold first time.my opinion.

[RISEorFall]

you're being results oriented. You want a reason you should've called so you could hit your flush and take out the player. If the flop had come JJ3 and BB showed AJ you'd be glad you folded. Fold to the first raise PF. you have J5.

[MasterLJ]

Mo-town is no good to any raise with the exception of a 2xBB raise and you have J5 suited in the BB to alot of callers. I think I'd need about 8 to 1 or more on my call pre-flop to go in with J5 suited.