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#1 PrtyPSux

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 10:44 PM

I was doing the fish thing, and busted out 2 times for a total of 30 bux or so, the table now sweaars Im the biggest fish there so they arent respecting sh*t, so I start playing str8 up and right away win like a $20 pot, then this hand comes up.AsQs UTG+2I raies $1.5 and the MP2 reraises 2 more I call and the flop comes 4c4xAcI check he bets 4, I reraise 10 (I think) he pushes for 26, its 20 to me and the pot is 47ish ....I fold....dumb? I cant put him on aces because why would he bet out on a flopped boat. its either AK AQ AJ or KK, (although KK i think would smooth call my reraise) possibly a flush draw too. was it an easy call here?

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 04:05 AM

Prty:Was this live or online? I ask because, IMHO, in an online game, for the most part table image is highly overrated, and generally unimportant because A. the turnover is usually so high and B. only at higher limits to most people pay any serious attention to what you are doing. If you really, truly believe that they were buying into your table image and completely disrespecting your raises, AND villain was playing semi-loose to loose aggressive, I think a call would be necessary. That's the whole point of building your table image as a fish, right? However, I think it's more than likely safe to fold here and to pick a better spot to put all your chips out there. Without a good read, I think it's generally incorrect to call an all-in without the nutz or pretty close to it. But I've been playing pretty tight in my NL games lately, so maybe that's wrong.
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Posted 28 June 2005 - 01:50 PM

BeanGW said:

Prty:Was this live or online? I ask because, IMHO, in an online game, for the most part table image is highly overrated, and generally unimportant because A. the turnover is usually so high and B. only at higher limits to most people pay any serious attention to what you are doing. If you really, truly believe that they were buying into your table image and completely disrespecting your raises, AND villain was playing semi-loose to loose aggressive, I think a call would be necessary. That's the whole point of building your table image as a fish, right? However, I think it's more than likely safe to fold here and to pick a better spot to put all your chips out there. Without a good read, I think it's generally incorrect to call an all-in without the nutz or pretty close to it. But I've been playing pretty tight in my NL games lately, so maybe that's wrong.
actually I made my image pretty obvious to everyone, I was talking sh*t slowplaying kings, missplaying 2 prs, calling w/ 2 outers etc..I think I shouldve called though, It was my second hand playing str8 up so I didnt know that player's reaction to my game, after that I think he reraised every single time I bet,, I knew I shouldve called. (I think the dude was an idiot though cuz why someone would bluff a guy who chases 2 outers is beyond me, thats why at first I thought he was strong.)

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Posted 28 June 2005 - 01:55 PM

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BeanGW said:

Prty:Was this live or online? I ask because, IMHO, in an online game, for the most part table image is highly overrated, and generally unimportant because A. the turnover is usually so high and B. only at higher limits to most people pay any serious attention to what you are doing. If you really, truly believe that they were buying into your table image and completely disrespecting your raises, AND villain was playing semi-loose to loose aggressive, I think a call would be necessary. That's the whole point of building your table image as a fish, right? However, I think it's more than likely safe to fold here and to pick a better spot to put all your chips out there. Without a good read, I think it's generally incorrect to call an all-in without the nutz or pretty close to it. But I've been playing pretty tight in my NL games lately, so maybe that's wrong.
actually I made my image pretty obvious to everyone, I was talking sh*t slowplaying kings, missplaying 2 prs, calling w/ 2 outers etc..I think I shouldve called though, It was my second hand playing str8 up so I didnt know that player's reaction to my game, after that I think he reraised every single time I bet,, I knew I shouldve called. (I think the dude was an idiot though cuz why someone would bluff a guy who chases 2 outers is beyond me, thats why at first I thought he was strong.)
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