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#41 ford0067

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 10:09 AM

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Doesn't the bible say something about not gambling though?
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I don't know what catholic churches you people go to but here in PA I am pretty sure the places would wither away if it wasn't for weekend BINGO!!!! They pass more money through there than a lot of back alley card rooms in town.I think the only reason churches in PA oppose gambling legislation is because it will cut into the profit margins. They don't seem to mind much as long as they are the sponsors.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 11:10 AM

Once again the idiocy on this board is beyond anything I've seen before.Is someone praying for you to fail a form of witchcraft? NO. Witchcraft is a recognized religion in this country (the USA), as is satanism. It is the recognition and worship of Mother Nature as their deity, like Jesus to the Christians, Buddha to the Buddhists and Vishnu to the Hindu. Is praying for negatives go against the basic tenets of Chritianity, a faith to which this girl subscribes? YES. Do I have to explain this one?Should you be overly concerned that this is why your poker game hit the skids? Well, if you are, then maybe it's just bad luck? But luck doesn't factor into being a winning poker player, so maybe it's just your play? Whatever gets you through the day.

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I'm absolutely positive that the vast VAST majority of Catholics never have, nor ever will speak in tongues.
The Charismatic Catholics are a recognized branch of the Church, like the Jesuits or the Angelicans, etc. They are very controversial within the Catholic community, and they are believers in the Babylonian concept, which is "speaking in tongues".

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I would tell her she needs to pray for her cults priests to stop raping young boys.
While using these set of facts is certainly acceptable, using this type of wording is exceptable and should be noted for what it is, a baited statement. Referring to the Catholic Church as a cult, and referring to sexual abuse as "priests raping young boys" is inflammatory. Don't be a douche, make you point with a level of intellect and you might get taken seriously. If you so desire.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 11:18 AM

My catholic priest is hot. He's got an as.s like 10 year old boy. Oh wait, he's been in the as.s of a 10 year old boy. Sorry, I got confused.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 11:32 AM

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ok, my question is; Is it "right" to spend energy on praying for someone to "fail" at something that they really want to achieve?
No, it's not. She was praying for you to fail because SHE didn't like YOU playing poker, which is ridiculous in its own right. To wish misfortune on someone in orer to get them to think the way you do is pretty crappy. I'd be interested to get her take on Barry Greenstein. How could any religious person be against playing poker to give the winnings to charity?But, I'm sure in her mind it will still be bad, because after all, it is a game that involves money (usually). And just because there is money involved it has to be evil. Because money is the root of all evil, isn't it?Do religious people have any problem with people investing in the stock market? Because in the short term it's not much different that playing poker. There's a lot of risk you have to try to weigh in making decisions. Are they all going to petition Bush for wanting private social security accounts now?

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 11:32 AM

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My catholic priest is hot. He's got an as.s like 10 year old boy. Oh wait, he's been in the as.s of a 10 year old boy. Sorry, I got confused.
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 11:46 AM

Really???? Why????Not funny or did I cross some sort of line? Based on my posts, is it really hard to believe that I think organized religion is for the weak of mind. No offense to those who differ. Believe all you like. I just think ORGANIZED religion is a moneymaking scheme dreamed up long ago. Two words: Benny HinhTwo more words: L. Ron Hubbard (I know its three. Embarce the sarcasm) A failed sci-fi writer invents a religion because there is money in it. Tom Cruise- anyone see a pattern here. Nutbags.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 11:53 AM

To the original poster........Show her the nuts and go ALL IN!!

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 12:00 PM

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Doesn't the bible say something about not gambling though?
Curiously enough, it doesn't. I've researched this heavily myself since a lot of religious friends of mine told me that gambling was a "sin".Gambling, or any game playing at all, is never mentioned in the Bible.The best that I can tell is that back when the Christians were taking control of Rome, the priests decided that they wanted the people to go through them to determine what "God's will" was. Therefore, all devices used to divine the will of God were banned. This included the casting of lots, dice, etc. Since these devices are now related to gambling rather than divination, most Christian based faiths still consider gambling a sin.Ironically, the Catholics seem to be the most at ease with gambling since many of them hold Bingo nights and Las Vegas nights to raise money.Amazing how things that occur thousands of years ago still effect us today.
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 05:16 PM

thanks for all the input!!! Even the hardcore theologians on this forum i thank you for your critsisms and corrections. I found them .................. quite amusing!As far as looking for luck to win at poker, i don't. I try to cut down the luck as much as possible. I was saying, that these past few years, others have been hitting there "one outers" on me. If you go in with the best, or play deceptively, you don't need alot of luck on your side.And to the theologian who said that witchcraft is an entity of itself, I beg to differ. If you look into history, you'll find that witches were created by Christians!!! Yes............. Made up bull shhiiat to scare people into there religion.It all started when christians made up evil people at night called "vampires". You see, if your a good person, you should go to bed early so you can get up early for work. Of course, there may be times you have to go out at night for something. And the Christian church warns that there are "life sucking" night people out in the dark. If you are not careful, they'll suck all the life out of your body. But, there is a weapon to repel these "vampires". The christian church says that if you have the crusifix with you, it will keep you safe against these dark devils. So, the church sold a bunch of crusifixes and made alot of money off the fearful.Then, others wanted to get in on the scam. So these astroligers started saying that another thing that will repel the vampires is "garlic". Well, that infuriated the church. They weren't goin to let anyone make money off there scam. So they told there loyal members; Beware, there are "Witches" out there that will implant false hopes in you and sell you things that are against god's beliefs. And thats how witches came about.Go research it. I'm not making this shhiiaat up!! The Catholic church did.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 05:29 PM

Even if you don't want to make a case for gambling on strictly religious terms, the problems still exist. Religions aren't totally witchcraft and people speaking in tongues, look at the morals and repeated traditions brought up by them instead of looking at it like some magic.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 05:34 PM

oh yeah, when i was in grade school, i went to this catholic school that had "Day at the Races" at Santa Anita Race Track at least twice a school year. And those Sisters would bet what they could muster on those horses. They loved going to the race track. Not to mention all the Bingo games they had at the Parish every week.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 05:37 PM

well vag, i want to make it clear. I don't think your a witch if you speak in tounges. What i said is; if you pray to a higher "energy" to encourage failure or misery for another, then that sounds like witchcraft. I'm not calling all catholics witches. Just the ones that think that praying for bad things is OK.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 05:41 PM

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well vag, i want to make it clear. I don't think your a witch if you speak in tounges. What i said is; if you pray to a higher "energy" to encourage failure or misery for another, then that sounds like witchcraft.  I'm not calling all catholics witches. Just the ones that think that praying for bad things is OK.
Yeah what she is doing is not really religiously applicable. I think she overstepped her bounds with god in wanting you to fail. If she wanted you to stop she should just ask god for you to stop playing. I think that is more religiously sound than asking for failure in doing something wrong. That's like asking for you to get an std from a prostitute so you stop going to prostitutes.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 05:50 PM

agsa6969:While using these set of facts is certainly acceptable, using this type of wording is exceptable and should be noted for what it is, a baited statement. Referring to the Catholic Church as a cult, and referring to sexual abuse as "priests raping young boys" is inflammatory. Don't be a douche, make you point with a level of intellect and you might get taken seriously. If you so desire."Don't be a douche" is inflammatory, you fecal chewing hypocrite.Least I'm willing to admit it. Anyone with a hint of cynisism and a talent for not being a self-rightous urethra does take me seriously, when it's warranted. By the way, if I were a vampire, sometimes I would pour everclear down my victims throats, making jungle-juice out of their blood.That way I would get drunk when I fed upon them.
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 05:54 PM

Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahahah. And i would be gettin drunk with you cause i'm known as a vampire cause i'm a poker player. We night people like to feed during the night and sleep during the day.

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 07:18 PM

[quote name='"Spademan"][quote=nopunk][quote]I would tell her she needs to pray for her cults priests to stop raping young boys.[/quote]I find this to be in very bad taste and extremely uncalled for. Catholicism' date=' and Christianity in general, is one of the oldest religions on the planet. Hardly a cult.If you don't have anything meaningful to contribute, then you should say nothing at all.[/quote']First of all, xtianity and it's offshoots are nowhere NEAR the oldest religions in the world, it's absurd to say so, and evidence of some form of indoctrination.Secondly, Catholic priest have raped young boys, and been covered up for time and time again. And you say me stating that FACT is uncalled for, and say nothing about that nastiness. Sick.Finally, a cult can be defined as: A religious system of worship. So, semantically you can't find fault with the term, even if you don't aggree with it's uglier connotations like I do.Its not just a cult its a cult that pushes laws on its followers that encourage them to make more cult members (i.e. contraception is evil, abortion is evil, homosexuality is evil---they cant reproduce can they!)

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Posted 27 June 2005 - 08:03 PM

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show her you are a better christian than she is!tell her how youve prayed she fails at her prostitution career but, show her that you will not judge her and give her 20 for a bj.
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Posted 27 June 2005 - 08:14 PM

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Diabolical:I'm absolutely positive that the vast VAST majority of Catholics never have, nor ever will speak in tongues. I'm also positive that praying for the failure of others is not something Catholics do on a regular basis. It sounds to me as if your neighbors are involved in some very non-Catholic things; they can call it whatever they want. I believe what you are saying, but I'm telling you that what they do doesn't hold for the vast majority of Christians.As for being in a room with 20-30 people speaking in tongues, no I have never been a party to that. I would find it frightening. As to that, the Catholic Church teaches that some people do speak in tongues. Also, it is very rare and comes in twos, not groups of 20-30. Meaning, one person speaks in tongues, one person interprets. Obviously, these people have been lead astray at some point or another. Thats all I know on the subject, so I have nothing else to say on the matter. I hope I have helped to alleviate some of your ignorance on the matter.Spademan:Christianity is nearing 2000 years old. To say it doesn't rank among the oldest practiced religions on the planet is absolutely ridiculous.Your statement was uncalled for. It being a fact makes little difference as to whether it is called for or not. Surely you would agree that interjecting a few Holocaust statistics into the story of Hannukah would be uncalled for. This is the same thing. It provides no meaningful addition to the discussion and only serves to inflame others.I can find fault with the term cult. Whether or not there is a definition denoting a simple system of believes, you obviously didn't mean it that way. It was said merely to inflame. Connotatively the word cult is very negative.Lastly, your skills in rhetoric aren't superlative, don't flatter yourself. This will be my last post on the subject. I'm not going to get into a flame war with you. Your post was the post of a Troll and I won't reward you with what you want. I will do one thing, though. I am going to pray for you. Whether you like it or not.Forum:I'm a long time lurker, first...well...second time poster. I don't want to seem overly fanatical here, I'm not. I'm just trying to set the record at least a little straighter about my religion.Thanks
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Posted 12 January 2006 - 04:41 PM

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 05:00 PM

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The religious are batsh!t crazy. Many of them are nice people but as soon as they start condemning the lifestyles of other people I can't stand them.
Same here. Execpt for Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and the rest of those teleangeslists. Also, anyone who thinks that you need to worship a certain god and must not gamble, drink, smoke, engage in pre-marital sex, etc... is nuts.




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