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[CoolHandLaw]

I was just reading today's Poker Quiz on Cardplyer.com and thought, that the answer was rather weak/tight. Am I wrong? I'd think that I'm still strong with this board... QuestionA $30-$60 game. You open with a raise under-the-gun having the A-A. The player on your immediate left cold-calls your raise and everyone else folds. There is $170 in the pot and two players. The flop is: Td-8h-4c, giving you an overpair. You bet and your opponent calls. There is $230 in the pot. The turn is the K. You bet and your opponent raises. What do you do?AnswerCall. You are risking another raise if you three-bet here, and your opponent could have a wide range of hands that beat a pair of aces at this point. While occasionally raises on the turn are semi-bluffs, these are rare among typical players. Instead, raises on the turn frequently denote two pair or better. He could easily have cold-called your preflop raise with K-K, T-T, or even 8-8, and now have a set. You will get four-bet if you are against a set, and you only have two outs. You have eight outs against the top two pair, and again you could easily get four-bet. By calling, you can check the river if a blank comes, and perhaps induce a bluff bet on the end if your opponent was semi-bluffing with something like queen-jack suited. If your opponent has ace-king, you can call here, check on the end, and he will probably bet the river for you.

[custom36]

At our stakes, that's a real weak play. However, I've never played 30/60, so that may be correct.

[GTKID]

If it was a check raise It woudl be a definite call or possible fold. But ussually where I play on grid people love to raise on draws or think you had ak or aq and they're top pair on the flop is good. But they ussually put htese raises in on the flop.

[Absolute]

I usually hate most of Cardplayer's quiz answers. even when correct, its often for the wrong reasons.

[KDawgCometh]

XXEddie said:

id callbet/call river

so you're advocating a stop n go, why? that's just dumb

[Vade]

Stakes do make huge changes...CallCheck/call the end.At SSHEl games, you three bet that turn all day

[Smasharoo]

While occasionally raises on the turn are semi-bluffs, these are rare among typical playersWhat?Occasionally they are raises to set up a free showdown with marginal hands and that allow an extra bet if the river hits them.A lot, actually.

[Abbaddabba]

Unless 30/60 players are a whole lot weaker than i would expect, three betting here would be perfectly reasonable. There are a lot of hands that are behind, unless we know the table is extremely tight. A/K, for one, is a hand that may very well be calling the flop but raising the turn. Pocket 8's and 10's don't seem too probable on account of the fact that i would assume they'd want to isolate the original bettor and keep the blinds out preflop. What the original poster didnt mention (or maybe hte article didnt) is how many people htere are at the table. Under the gun at a short handed table means a lot less than at a full table, obviously.Cold calling with K/Q suited is definitely a possibility at a short handed table, while it may not be at a full table for UTG+1. If you're exluding the possibility of them cold calling with K/Q, or K/J on account of the fact that the limits are high, you'd also have to exclude any two pair possibilities.