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[delphi512]

had this hand this morning and lost my stack on it. i'm trying to learn omaha, just a beginner. was this a bad beat, or did i misplay it?PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converterUTG ($6.05)UTG+1 ($23.50)MP1 ($9.45)MP2 ($23.80)CO ($45.60)Button ($11.60)Hero ($17.35)BB ($28.30)Preflop: Hero is SB with A:diamond:, K:heart:, 6:heart:, A:heart:. Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: ($1.50) K:club:, K:spade:, 5:diamond: (8 players)Hero bets $1, BB calls $1, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds.Turn: ($3.60) 6:club: (2 players)Hero bets $3.6, BB calls $3.60.River: ($10.45) 7:diamond: (2 players)Hero bets $10.45, BB raises to $23.45, Hero calls $2.05 (All-In).Final Pot: $45.65i feel like i played it right... until the river maybe. should i have checked the river since i was out of position and no longer had top boat, or since i coulnt put him on a 7, pressed the gas like i did? up until his riase, i put him on a K with no boat or maybe pocket 5s.

[Kendren]

I think you played this alright. I might have raised preflop, you've got a great hand going there. On the river, the only hand that beats you is K7. I would have stayed on the gas too, just one of those things you really hate to see.

[....Ian....]

K-7?

[delphi512]

yes, he held J 7 K 2 in the big blind

[RhinestoneCowboy]

From my limited experience with Omaha, you lose a lot of hands with boats against bigger boats, and flushes against boats when the board pairs. I don't see much you could do there when K-7 was the ONLY possible hand to beat you. Tough break.

[cdddc75]

He caught one of his six outs on the river. With the second nut hand, I don't see how this turns out much differently.

[Pokerdad2222]

I dont think there is anythig you could do but I agree that this is probably a rasing hand preflop with the aces and nut heart draw. BB got to see a flop with a garbage hand. Tough break but might have saved some money with preflop raise. After that, nothing you can really do

[delphi512]

thanks for the input. i'm reading Championship Omaha by Cloutier and McEvoy. TJ says not to raise preflop, and not to play the danglers (the 6 in this case). is this too conservative?

[Kendren]

delphi512 said:

thanks for the input. i'm reading Championship Omaha by Cloutier and McEvoy. TJ says not to raise preflop, and not to play the danglers (the 6 in this case). is this too conservative?

In loose/fishy games like this, yes.

[TheIceman05]

delphi512 said:

thanks for the input. i'm reading Championship Omaha by Cloutier and McEvoy. TJ says not to raise preflop, and not to play the danglers (the 6 in this case). is this too conservative?

Yeah. Probably. I agree that you shouldn't be raising unless you're in position, though. If you raise with AAK6 there, from the SB, and I had J975 on the button I'd be drooling.Ice

[bdc30]

I read the same book by Cloutier, and I have to disagree, especially in lower limit games.A raise here pre-flop, especially if it was a pot-sizedone, would have surely driven out the garbage hand that beat you.Not to say Cloutier's book is bad, I just think it's moregeared to higher end games and tourney's.Check out Hellmuth's Play Poker Like the Prosfor his take on Omaha.He says at one point he'd be willing to risk hisENTIRE stack pre-flop with A-A-X-X...(maybe a TAD too LAG, but you get the point)

[Smasharoo]

Check/fold the flop.Or stop playing PL.