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[Comatose_Soul]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converterButton (t1540)SB (t4350)BB (t1260)UTG (t1980)Hero (t1360)CO (t1075)Preflop: Hero is MP with Td, Th. 1 fold, Hero calls t200.Flop: (t1150) 4h, 4c, Qs (2 players)CO has T575 left, Hero does what?(I busted out a few hands later in 10th when my KK got busted by AJ - flop was A high, turn another A, river a blank.)

[Absolute]

you got a line on the villian?

[Comatose_Soul]

He's been pretty tight. He's the short stack, and my impression is that he's been waiting for around for a good hand.

[Absolute]

Comatose_Soul said:

He's been pretty tight. He's the short stack, and my impression is that he's been waiting for around for a good hand.

hes not much shorter than you here.you need to make your decision pre-flop. just calling his raise means you need to be willing to call or push on a good flop.its a good flop to call the all-in for, and you certainly have to call it there getting 3 to 1.regardless, when you risk 1/3 of your stack before the flop and youll be left with less than 10BB if you fold, theres not too much decision making to do.

[DCWildcat]

I agree with what absolute said.On the flop, push. Can't risk more overs, and can't fold to a bet on the turn, you'll be crippled. All your chips must be in the middle on this hand.

[Comatose_Soul]

Pretty much matches what I was thinking. Six handed, I really liked Tens. I bet 600 - he called and showed Kings. Caught a King on the River.I was knocked out in tenth a few hands later:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) converterButton (t3055)SB (t4225)BB (t3630)Hero (t685)MP (t2850)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ks, Kh. Hero raises to t685, Button calls t2370 (All-In).Flop: (t7470) 9s, 4c, As (3 players, 1 all-in)Turn: (t7470) Ad (3 players, 1 all-in)River: (t7470) 7h (3 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: t7470BB has Jh Js (two pair, aces and jacks). Hero has Ks Kh (two pair, aces and kings). Button has Ah Jd (three of a kind, aces).

[DCWildcat]

that's poker

[Comatose_Soul]

DCWildcat said:

that's poker

Yep -- can normally always find someone with a worse bad-beat story, or running colder than you could imagine. I love it :twisted:

[Smasharoo]

On the flop, push.Retarded.Not a good flop for TT against a tight player. Check and see what he does.

[cbiscuit20]

Are you allowed to check when someone has bet into you?

[Smasharoo]

Are you allowed to check when someone has bet into you?WTF are you talking about?Learn to read.

[Absolute]

Smasharoo said:

On the flop, push.Retarded.Not a good flop for TT against a tight player. Check and see what he does.

the villian is pushing almost every single time you check.im more interested in what you think about this pre-flopobviously you shouldnt see a flop at all if were thinking we need flop a set.i think we push pre-flop here.the structure sucks. hes about to hover under 10BB, hes committed a decent % of his chips already, and 1010 is about as good as he can hope for in the next few few rounds.but im wrong a lot with NL advice.it just seems like a bad call on the PF reraise.

[Smasharoo]

the villian is pushing almost every single time you check.Probably not if he played KK that way preflop. Anyway, if he does, folding's fine. You have plenty of chips to wait to push and pray with another hand instead of drawing to a 2 outer a lot of the time.Pushing pre-flop is much better, but folding might be best.Where's the money at? Fifth?

[Comatose_Soul]

Smasharoo said:

Where's the money at? Fifth?

4th -- but there are still 12 players (6 at my table and 6 at the other - the other table also has a guy stalling - waiting 15 seconds every time its on him.) So there is still lots of time left, but the blinds are starting to hurt with the idiot at the other table making every hand last almost a minute.

[Absolute]

Smasharoo said:

the villian is pushing almost every single time you check.Probably not if he played KK that way preflop. Anyway, if he does, folding's fine. You have plenty of chips to wait to push and pray with another hand instead of drawing to a 2 outer a lot of the time.Pushing pre-flop is much better, but folding might be best.Where's the money at? Fifth?

IIRC, pokerstars pays 4 in the field of 18.

[Smasharoo]

th -- but there are still 12 players (6 at my table and 6 at the other - the other table also has a guy stalling - waiting 15 seconds every time its on him.) So there is still lots of time left, but the blinds are starting to hurt with the idiot at the other table making every hand last almost a minute.Oh, two tables left?Fold the flop.A tight player re-raises you preflop and you have a middle pair. I'd fold JJ there, too.You have plenty of time to find a hand to double up with.Given your read there's no reason to hammer this flop or to call if he does. In the typical sit and go you can steal your way back up to 15BB without to much effort.You lose the initative when you call pre-flop, it's *ok* to just get away from this after the flop. It's just TT. Attacking in late position after your fold with playable hands probably does you a lot more good than pushing this pre-flop or on this flop. Standard SnG moves like moving in on any hand folded to you on the button will keep you afloat for quite a while, and often get you paid off when you do have the hand you want to put your life on the line with.I should write a SnG strategy guide sometime so people can complain about it.

[DCWildcat]

my bad, i hought he checked to you on the flop