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[brando]

Still trying to get a grasp of this concept. No read on MP and Button is LAG.Was this used properly?Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 5 handed) converterMP ($35.6)Button ($32.57)SB ($49.5)Hero ($15)UTG ($73.35)Preflop: Hero is BB with [Ac], [Qd]. SB posts a blind of $0.25. 1 fold, Hero is all in ($15), Button calls $13, SB calls $13.****EDIT******The $2 pf raise was standard, had seen it done w/ hands such as JTs/os, KQs/os, A10, QJ, etc....

[garamond10pt]

I don't know what Miller's Short Stack theory is, but my guess is that it applies mostly to tournaments.

[brando]

It's in his book Getting Started in Hold 'EM. It's for cash games. I'm not sure he addresses this situation, but then again I was trying it as I'm reading it.

[Smasharoo]

Your play is right.2-1 on AQ there is great.

[brando]

Smasharoo said:

Your play is right.2-1 on AQ there is great.

What about moving in w/ only $6.5 in the pot?

[Smasharoo]

What about moving in w/ only $6.5 in the pot?Fine. They pretty much have to call, which is the disatvantage of small stack size. You won't pick up many pots PF.

[NickTheKid]

What was with the huge raise? Bad play.

[brando]

NickTheKid said:

What was with the huge raise? Bad play.

Have you read or know his theory?

[NickTheKid]

Well, from what I see it is a very stupid theory. There are 100's of places I'd rather get all my money in.

[brando]

NickTheKid said:

Well, from what I see it is a very stupid theory. There are 100's of places I'd rather get all my money in.

Like I said I"m not 100% sure I used it correctly. Maybe you should read or understand the theory before you just start saying "its stupid" or "bad play", etc..

[Smasharoo]

Well, from what I see it is a very stupid theory. There are 100's of places I'd rather get all my money in.Not really.If you could buy in for one blind constatly, you'd be almost guranteed to make money.

[NickTheKid]

Well I can agree with you there, but comon... You don't have to follow this guy's THEORY, Poker isn't a game set in stone, books and theories only show you the door man... AQ in that situation... ouch.

[Smasharoo]

Poker isn't a game set in stone, books and theories only show you the door man... AQ in that situation... ouch.AQ getting 2 to1, what's the big deal?

[NickTheKid]

AQ isn't a great hand, that's the big deal.

[Smasharoo]

AQ isn't a great hand, that's the big deal.You're right, there are 4 hands that are signifigantly ahead of it.KK's not that great a hand either, AA kills it.

[NickTheKid]

Yep, sorry, throwing all my money on a small pot with AQo is something everyone should do! Forget about post-flop play! :roll:

[Smasharoo]

Yep, sorry, throwing all my money on a small pot with AQoIt's not that much money, that's the whole point.

[NickTheKid]

Money shouldn't be the issue at all, Expected Value is the issue, this could be at the penny tables but I'd still advise against it. DN wastes his money on 1.5k tournies, he is making -EV plays... just because the MONEY isn't that much for him doesn't change the fact it's not a good play.AQo in that situation -EV.Don't do it.

[Smasharoo]

Money shouldn't be the issue at all, Expected Value is the issueThis play is so easily +EV it's painfull that you can't see it.See if you can riddle out why.

[NickTheKid]

Sure buddy, sure.