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#1 idiotbocs

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:17 PM

no reads, sorry.Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with K:heart:, A:diamond:. 1 fold, MP calls, Hero calls.Flop: (13 SB) 3:diamond:, K:spade:, J:club: (3 players)SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, Hero calls, SB calls.Turn: (12.50 BB) 9:club: (3 players)SB checks, MP bets, MP calls, Hero calls.River: (18.50 BB) 8:diamond: (3 players)SB bets, MP calls, Hero calls.Final Pot: 21.50BB

#2 Smasharoo

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:25 PM

Why no flop three-bet?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:32 PM

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Why no flop three-bet?
FPS, i guess. I thought SB's cap/check line was wierd and started to play the hand carefully(*laughs at carefully*).EDIT: Fold when the flop gets capped?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:35 PM

I think I'm probably folding to the two cold on the flop cap unless MP is an absolute maniac.With no reads I think I'm looking at JJ somewhere after the cap.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:40 PM

idiotbocs said:

EDIT: Fold when the flop gets capped?
yes, with a few curse words thrown in there too, you made your own bed by not threebetting TPTK, tsk tsk tsk. damn newb
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:41 PM

[results oriented thinking] By calling i set myself up for a good fold (although I whiffed). 3-betting would have just gotten me in deep. [/results oriented thinking]

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:45 PM

By calling i set myself up for a good fold Lol, yeah, there's that I guess.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 08:47 PM

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By calling i set myself up for a good fold Lol, yeah, there's that I guess.
Faaaaa Q. :-) I had a feeling the SB had me crushed.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:00 PM

idiotbocs said:

[results oriented thinking] By calling i set myself up for a good fold (although I whiffed). 3-betting would have just gotten me in deep. [/results oriented thinking]
Lol.You're almost certainly behind after the flop is capped. At best, you split. Calling down is fine. I think the SB check raise lets you officially know you're beat.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:10 PM

Calling down is fineIt is?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:30 PM

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Calling down is fineIt is?
I think the river call is fine, given everyone else's vagina growing fest on the turn.Maybe the turn call is too much because of the possibility of lots more action before you ever hit the river.Does that sound right?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:33 PM

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Smasharoo said:

Calling down is fineIt is?
I think the river call is fine, given everyone else's vagina growing fest on the turn.Maybe the turn call is too much because of the possibility of lots more action before you ever hit the river.Does that sound right?
not really. YOu know that I don't need a rag since I play very aggressive, but that flop cap absolutely sucks donkey nuts. We are being told that TPTK is not good here, so folding the flop is prudent
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 09:36 PM

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not really. YOu know that I don't need a rag since I play very aggressive, but that flop cap absolutely sucks donkey nuts. We are being told that TPTK is not good here, so folding the flop is prudent
I wasn't clear enough.I meant to advocate folding the flop without actually saying it (see what I said at "at best, you'll split"...calling down from there isn't very logical, is it 8).I meant calling down once we've reached the turn. Is my thinking correct from there?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 10:02 PM

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KDawgCometh said:

not really. YOu know that I don't need a rag since I play very aggressive, but that flop cap absolutely sucks donkey nuts. We are being told that TPTK is not good here, so folding the flop is prudent
I wasn't clear enough.I meant to advocate folding the flop without actually saying it (see what I said at "at best, you'll split"...calling down from there isn't very logical, is it 8).I meant calling down once we've reached the turn. Is my thinking correct from there?
If I had AKclubs, then a call might be correct on the turn. But the SB CRs that turn with all of the action that happened PF and on the Flop, do you really think that our hand is good enough to merit calling three BBs with the turn and possible river action taken into acount, I sure don't. I'm folding that turn too
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 10:09 PM

Right as usual, KDawg.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 10:17 PM

DCWildcat said:

Right as usual, KDawg.
eh, whatever. its not like you were asking dumb questions. Just remember, when calling a=down a hand, you really need to think it through on how much it will fully cost you instead of the immeadite odds. YOu need to think of your full odds for calling down a hand, you will start folding a few more hands and you will save some $$ in the long run
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 10:48 PM

this hand makes me giggle.if i played a hand like this, i sure as hell wouldnt be posting it!
i saw him at the riverbank. he was breaking bread and giving thanks. with crosses made of pipes and planks. leaned up against the nitrous tanks.
he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 10:56 PM

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this hand makes me giggle.if i played a hand like this, i sure as hell wouldnt be posting it!
how am i going to get better?
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Posted 15 June 2005 - 10:59 PM

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DCWildcat said:

Right as usual, KDawg.
eh, whatever. its not like you were asking dumb questions. Just remember, when calling a=down a hand, you really need to think it through on how much it will fully cost you instead of the immeadite odds. YOu need to think of your full odds for calling down a hand, you will start folding a few more hands and you will save some $$ in the long run
Yeah, that's where

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Maybe the turn call is too much because of the possibility of lots more action before you ever hit the river.
came from 8)

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 12:54 AM

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Absolute said:

this hand makes me giggle.if i played a hand like this, i sure as hell wouldnt be posting it!
how am i going to get better?
you wont n00b
i saw him at the riverbank. he was breaking bread and giving thanks. with crosses made of pipes and planks. leaned up against the nitrous tanks.
he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.

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