how would you have played this?

[AstroMech 0]

PS 10 + 1 27man SNGBoth these players were solid players, and becoming pretty agressive as it was coming down to 3 handed.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (3 handed) converterHero (t13558)Button (t12447)SB (t14495)Preflop: Hero is BB with [Ac], [9c]. Button raises to t1600, Hero calls t800.Flop: (t2500) [8c], [7c], [5s] (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets t2400

[cdddc75 0]

I'm only checking here with the intention of pushing over the top.I'll take my chances with twelve outs twice if he calls (I'm not even counting the three aces).

[NickTheKid 0]

Don't push, you are getting good odds too call. I hate pushing on draws.Also, I would have bet out there.

[screech 0]

I would have raised preflop.You have a strong hand three handed, but you're out of position.I'm raising anywhere between 2200 - 3000 on top of the buttons raise. If he comes over the top, I may call depending on my read (if he pushes with weak pp's but raises/calls with strong ones), but I'm more than likely going to let this one go. If he calls, I'm betting around 5000 into this pot, and seeing this one to the end if he calls/raises.The way you played it, I see this as an easy flop call. You don't have very many chips commited, so why risk them all on a draw? Sure you may win whats in the pot now if you push. But you may also get called and fail to outdraw your opponent which will happen about half the time. I'd wait for the turn before I made any rash decisions. If you do hit one of many outs, you may be able to rope-a-dope your opponent into pot commiting himself and take all his chips anyway.

[gobears 0]

Push!You either take the pot if he folds or you have at least twelve outs and maybe more if the aces are good too.

[NickTheKid 0]

I don't think a pair of Aces will take this.

[cdddc75 0]

Don't push, you are getting good odds too call. I hate pushing on draws.Also, I would have bet out there.

I would have led that flop out also. Was just trying to guess at OP's motive for not leading out.

[gobears 0]

I don't think a pair of Aces will take this.

It's three handed; Button could be stealing and then bet the flop when OP checked.Aces are worth at least 1 1/2 outs here.

[screech 0]

I agree with Nick, aces probably aren't good at this point. I'd say you have about 13 outs...Wait for the turn.

[cdddc75 0]

I agree with Nick, aces probably aren't good at this point.  I'd say you have about 13 outs...Wait for the turn.

I want my opponent to fold now though...

[screech 0]

I can see the merit in picking up the pot right here. Obviously you want any chips you can get. Pushing may accomplish this. If your opponent has nothing, or even a hand like 2nd pair, you may win the pot now. However, the pot is relatively small, and with such a big draw I would be trying to take command of the tournament in the cheapest way possible. Calling accomplishes two things:1) It allows you to see the next card as cheaply as possible. (this card will drastically change your position in the hand). If your opponent has a hand he would call your all in with, this is very beneficial as the chances are you will win all his money if you make your hand, while losing the minimum if you don't.2) If your opponent was just leading with a continuation bet and has nothing at all, he may slow down on the turn, giving you a cheap turn card to outdraw him, or setting you up to steal on the river if you miss. If you are able to steal on the river, this would accomplish the same thing as the push on the flop, but it won't risk as much. This play won't work nearly as much as the flop push though.

[AstroMech 0]

thanks for the reply guysi checked the flop because i thought he would bet out no matter what he had and then i could c/r him. that way, if he didnt have a hand he'd foldhe called my all in with QQ and i had 15 outs. it didnt hit and i was down to 1k chips

[Smasharoo 0]

Tough.Pusing instead of checking is probably better.I might just call this if I think I can get away with a defensive value bet on the turn to get a cheap river.

[NickTheKid 0]

Pushing that raise is not a good idea. Smash has the right idea, why you didn't lead a dream flop like this is beyond me.

[BeanGW 0]

Tough.Pusing instead of checking is probably better.

Word. If you want to pick up the pot right there, just push the flop. In a short handed game It's reasonable to assume that he raised preflop with any pair... or any Ace (for a steal), or event K-J or K-Q. You have plenty of outs + fold equity with a push. A check only allows villain to become more pot committed, decreasing your fold equity.

[Briguy 0]

14-15.5 outs (9 clubs, 3 remaining sixes, 3 aces (1/2 out each at minimum, backdoor T-J draw for 1/2). It depends on how you feel about your Ace outs. Personally, I'd count them as full outs, in which case you are about an 1.2:1 favourite after the flop (assuming he has an overpair and is redrawing to only 2 outs if the A hits). To my mind, that's enough of an edge to push, but I suck at MTT NLHE.As well, if you call the flop, OPP will push on the turn, making it almost impossible to call if the turn misses you. I think that this is a push or fold scenario, and it hinges on how you feel about the A outs. In this case, pushing > folding > calling, IMO.

[JacKingOff_suit 0]

You should push first.Since you checked, I would say call next.If you pushed after he bet 2.4k at the flop, since button already invested 4k in the pot and got only 8k left, it's certain call from him. Then you and the button would be at a close to the coin flip situation.If you just called and tried to see what's going on at the turn, and since you've claimed that button was a solid player. Your check may made him wondering if you've got set, big overpair... on the flop and trying to get him trapped, so he may even check if you check on the turn after missing your draws. But if you make your draw on the turn, then ....

[Rocketwadster 0]

I probably would have pushed pre-flop, but since that isn't the question posed...I think you have to come out swinging after the flop...you have a very good hand and a ton of outs, but since THAT is also not the question posed...you push em all in after that weak bet by the button. You straight draw, flush draw, overcards will win a LOT of times if they decide to call, which gives you two ways to win this pot (he folds = you win, he calls and you catch = you win) as opposed to only one way to lose (he calls and you don't catch)... :wink: