Blink20 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ok, granted, there probably isn't much analysis in this hand, nor any I might be posting. But it would be helpful to know if I am somewhat on the right track, I don't want major leaks in my limit game as I start playing it more. I mainly just play nl holdem , omaha high/low and stud high/low. I've read the necessary limit books however, I just always get frustrated at the game.Anyway, here's a couple simple little hands. I think I played it how I was supposed to, any comment would be helpful. I will post better ones as time goes on.PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: blink20 is SB with [4s], [Ks]. UTG calls, 3 folds, blink20 completes, BB checks.Flop: (4 SB) [2s], [Js], [2c] (4 players)blink20 bets, blink20 calls.Turn: (4 BB) [7d] (2 players)blink20 checks, CO bets, blink20 folds.Final Pot: 5 BBPokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: blink20 is UTG with [Td], [Ts]. blink20 raises, blink20 calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (10.50 SB) [Js], [3c], [Ac] (3 players)blink20 checks, MP2 checks, CO bets, blink20 folds, MP2 folds.Final Pot: 5.75 BB Link to post Share on other sites
blinky 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 second one i agree withfirst i woulda called, cuz ur gettin 5 to 1 and the flush will come 4 to 1on the other hand your flush very well might not be good if it comes on the river, but i still woulda called Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Not a good fold in the first hand. You've got 9 likely outs to the flush. Your opponent probably limped with a semi-ragged Jack, and if he's not holding KJ, you're going to have 3 more outs to a better 2-pair. You're giving up money everytime you fold this hand, especially since you'll probably snag a bet or two when you make your hand. You're drawing dead here very rarely.Ice Link to post Share on other sites
Blink20 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ok, so I was getting 5-1 on a 5-1 draw, I just thought the possibility i might be drawing dead, with the fact its basically a break even play, it would be fine to fold.Would anyone three bet the flop out of position with the flush draw? I figured since its only 1/2 he'll pay me off with a Jack, so semi bluffing a draw, and trying to rep the 2 wouldn't be a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Call hand one (pot odds are in your favor).Lead the flop on hand two. Representing the ace is fantastic if CO doesn't have one. Don't let the over cards scare you away that easily. Link to post Share on other sites
TheIceman05 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Ok, so I was getting 5-1 on a 5-1 draw, I just thought the possibility i might be drawing dead, with the fact its basically a break even play, it would be fine to fold.Would anyone three bet the flop out of position with the flush draw? I figured since its only 1/2 he'll pay me off with a Jack, so semi bluffing a draw, and trying to rep the 2 wouldn't be a good idea.You're drawing dead to 77 (which raises the flop why?), JJ (which limps preflop why?) J2 (which is playing... why?) and 22 (which is popping the flop and putting extra pressure on you with a monster..why?). As you can see, you're almost never dead here. More often than not he's raising it up with a jack. He doesn't have any way to counterfeit your flush outs. And your King is going to be good a LOT of the time. Those extra 3 outs, your implied river odds, and the fact that you're surely not drawing dead move it from "strongly suggested call" to "mandatory call"Ice Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 5 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Hand 1: If you think someone will bet, check/raise the flop. Otherwise the flop play is fine. Call the turn - you're getting the right odds.Hand 2: Lead out on the flop. Always lead out on the flop if you raised preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
Blink20 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 Hand 1: If you think someone will bet, check/raise the flop. Otherwise the flop play is fine. Call the turn - you're getting the right odds.Hand 2: Lead out on the flop. Always lead out on the flop if you raised preflop.I usually would, but the CO reraised me, then two overs fell. And I just called his raise preflop. At that point I think I just gave up and hoped to catch a 10.. oops. Link to post Share on other sites
custom36 5 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Hand 1: If you think someone will bet, check/raise the flop. Otherwise the flop play is fine. Call the turn - you're getting the right odds.Hand 2: Lead out on the flop. Always lead out on the flop if you raised preflop.I usually would, but the CO reraised me, then two overs fell. And I just called his raise preflop. At that point I think I just gave up and hoped to catch a 10.. oops.Ah, I missed the preflop 3-bet (I'm a bit out of it today). Hand 2 is fine. Link to post Share on other sites
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