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Posted 12 June 2005 - 06:51 PM

Just joined a new site - so the hand history a bit weird.I have AQspades.Dealer: isomorphism will be allowed to play once the button has passed.Hand 1734598: DOODAH posted small blind (£0.25)Hand 1734598: bigjim posted big blind (£0.50)Hand 1734598: Ash called (£0.50)Hand 1734598: roksrokin called (£0.50)Hand 1734598: swfc raised (£2)Hand 1734598: Gene called (£2.50)Hand 1734598: Tonyduparis foldedHand 1734598: biglee foldedHand 1734598: DOODAH foldedHand 1734598: bigjim called (£2)Hand 1734598: Ash called (£2)Hand 1734598: roksrokin called (£2) :D A :club: 8 :D 7Hand 1734598: bigjim checkedHand 1734598: Ash bet (£12.75)Hand 1734598: roksrokin called (£0.22)Hand 1734598: swfc raised (£12.75)Gene: everyone has a good hand? lolHand 1734598: Gene foldedAsh: here's hoping :-)Hand 1734598: bigjim raised (£15.55)Hand 1734598: Ash called (£3.50)Hand 1734598: swfc called (£6.93)Gene: i folded something myselfFinal pot:Dealer: bigjim wins (£32.36) with three of a kind, eights, ace kicker Dealer: Ash wins (£59.88) with a straight, seven to jack My thinking:Flop comes down - not too bad was worried about a flush draw. Comes to me and the shortest stack Ash bets the pot. Then onto me and i decide with the two large stacks behind me to reraise and try and get ash heads up as i thought he was either drawing to a flush or had a weaker Ace. So i stick in my hefty reraise. First big stack folds, then jim re raises me for my last money.... i then think oh dear...He has tripsThe short stack was actually up and down and caught it on the turn. I ended up third in the hand.Personally i found the hand quite interesting. Although it cost me sixty bucks or so. Just wondering what you'd have done different.I could have been awful. I think i suck at cash lol.

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Posted 12 June 2005 - 07:02 PM

Yes.

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Posted 12 June 2005 - 07:07 PM

haha right... thanks but i want help.so do i fold to the intial bet?call and fold?i said i rubbish at cash....i made the raise to try and get the pot heads up...umm think i was a bit unlucky in a different position i'd have played it a lot differnetly.

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Posted 12 June 2005 - 10:47 PM

To be blunt, the formatting is terrible, we don't know who you are and we don't know how much you have in your stack and other people's stack. This complete lack of information makes it nearly impossible to tell you whether the play was ok or horrible (I don't think good is an option based on what I CAN figure out.)Zara

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Posted 12 June 2005 - 11:27 PM

It's either raise or fold after the flop. It depends on the read that you have on Ash. He's betting the pot after a raise pre-flop by you and he's got three players behind him. That usually signifies a very strong hand. You only have Top Pair with a Good Kicker. If don't know anything about Ash, I fold.If you think that you're probably ahead of Ash due to a read, then I think that your re-raise is fine although I would have pushed because you only had seven pounds after the re-raise if I'm reading the history correctly?But assuming that I don't have any read, I fold.
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Posted 13 June 2005 - 04:27 AM

ok - i thought i was ahead of him and he either had a weaker Ace or a flush draw.As it was he had the straight draw.Sorry about the format i posted the hand history comes in a table makes it hard to post.

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 04:32 AM

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To be blunt, the formatting is terrible, we don't know who you are and we don't know how much you have in your stack and other people's stack. This complete lack of information makes it nearly impossible to tell you whether the play was ok or horrible (I don't think good is an option based on what I CAN figure out.)Zara
1 DOODAH 2 bigjim 43.55 3 bigcheeze1 4 Ash 18.75 5 roksrokin 2.72 6 swfc 34.93 - me 7 Gene 72.88 8 Tonyduparis 9 *biglee 10 isomorphism the bold people in the hand. i bought in with 25 an hour or whatever ago i woudln't normally buy in short.

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 05:29 AM

Very bad play.

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 05:33 AM

hah i'm just trying to improve and all you people say is very bad.i not ever said i was good.

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 06:26 AM

gobears said:

It's either raise or fold after the flop.  It depends on the read that you have on Ash.  He's betting the pot after a raise pre-flop by you and he's got three players behind him.   That usually signifies a very strong hand.  You only have Top Pair with a Good Kicker.  If don't know anything about Ash, I fold.If you think that you're probably ahead of Ash due to a read, then I think that your re-raise is fine although I would have pushed because you only had seven pounds after the re-raise if I'm reading the history correctly?But assuming that I don't have any read, I fold.
What more do you need to hear than what gobears said???Why would you call this bet? What do you have? Aces with a good kicker. Heads-up you've got a great hand, but with three other players and a UTG bet into the raiser... easy fold IMHO.You are very likely drawing to two outs... those outs may not even give you the second best hand, if someone redraws to a straight or a flush, or if someone already has a set.

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 06:55 AM

Zarathustra said:

To be blunt, the formatting is terrible, we don't know who you are and we don't know how much you have in your stack and other people's stack. This complete lack of information makes it nearly impossible to tell you whether the play was ok or horrible (I don't think good is an option based on what I CAN figure out.)Zara
Exactly...I still don't know who you are in the hand...did you win?

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 09:10 AM

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Very bad play.
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Posted 13 June 2005 - 09:32 AM

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 09:49 AM

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gobears said:

It's either raise or fold after the flop. It depends on the read that you have on Ash. He's betting the pot after a raise pre-flop by you and he's got three players behind him. That usually signifies a very strong hand. You only have Top Pair with a Good Kicker. If don't know anything about Ash, I fold.If you think that you're probably ahead of Ash due to a read, then I think that your re-raise is fine although I would have pushed because you only had seven pounds after the re-raise if I'm reading the history correctly?But assuming that I don't have any read, I fold.
What more do you need to hear than what gobears said???Why would you call this bet? What do you have? Aces with a good kicker. Heads-up you've got a great hand, but with three other players and a UTG bet into the raiser... easy fold IMHO.You are very likely drawing to two outs... those outs may not even give you the second best hand, if someone redraws to a straight or a flush, or if someone already has a set.
I agree with these guys. This is a fold because even if you are ahead at the moment (unlikely considering the betting), there are a number of draws out there that can kill you.
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