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[wrto4556]

Today I was in a tournament and I made a crazy call. The blinds were at 100/200 and I had about 2,400 in chips. The guy in the CO just lost a big pot and is down to 700 in chips. Everyone folds to him and I know he's going to go all in. I have QTo. He does the obvious and I call without thinking. Should I have?

[Smasharoo]

Eh, probably not with QT.You're not that great against even a random hand.Ax maybe, and even then, people seemingly on tilt catch hands too on occasion. Is this really where you want to make a stand?

[wrto4556]

I made the call, and I figured it was OK. I KNEW he was going to go all in regardless of what two cards he had. Maybe QT wasn't worth it, but I called.Guy shows T8o.... and I flopped trip queens. Guy sais FU and leaves

[Smasharoo]

Good example of a bad play working out ok. Would have sucked if he AJ or something, you know?

[wrto4556]

lol.I know...I know. Just told myself right when I saw the hand. If he raises, i'm calling. It got me in trouble later with J9s vs AQs.

[Eskimo]

I don't think it was a bad play. I don't think folding would be bad either, but i would have probably called. I mean, you know hes gonna go all-in and even though Q10 isn't that good of a hand i would have gone with my gut and called.

[VirginiaGent]

Yes, it was easy to predict the guys going all in, but did you really want to risk that much with Q-10...just let him have the blinds. Your good outcome here is probably what cost you later when you had a feeling that your call with J9s was correct against another "tilter."Pick your spots. Still struggle with this myself, but I am getting a LOT better. Winning, picking my spots, and walking away a winner beats not playing in so many hands, getting bored, and losing when I try to play any day.

[the_stein]

watch out for this one, sometimes people lose a few pots in a row and go all in next hand with a GOOD hand hoping someone will call with a marginal hand thinking they are on tilt, I have seen this a million times

[JFarrell20]

NO! lol. Q 10 is no better heads up than K Q you asked about in another post! Why do you chase fights??? If that dude has a king high he's winning! Basically to call an all-in you'd better have an ace or a pair of 8's or better. Even if you think he's steaming.

[JFarrell20]

wrto4556 said:

I made the call, and I figured it was OK. I KNEW he was going to go all in regardless of what two cards he had. Maybe QT wasn't worth it, but I called.Guy shows T8o.... and I flopped trip queens. Guy sais FU and leaves

LOL. I would have been pissed too! Calling his all in with Q 10 off is just reckless. Sure he had a worse hand, but his going all in is worth more than your calling all in.

[wrto4556]

I was ahead. Don't get mad, but you should read stuff better before you come up with an answer.

[JFarrell20]

wrto4556 said:

I was ahead. Don't get mad, but you should read stuff better before you come up with an answer.

Ahead of WHO!? HIM? or the whole rest of the pack??? Get it right. You were not ahead. TRUST ME. Calling his all in here with queen high is r-e-c-k-l-e-s-s. Ask Negreanu, and ask anyone else on here.If you were heads-up thats a different story. I would have probably called heads up with queen high, especially if I'm ahead.

[wrto4556]

READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU ANSWERI was big blind...So I closed the betting...meaning we were heads-up. hmmmm. And as it turns out, I was ahead. You're poker illiterate. I had more chips than he did=I was ahead. Jesus Jones, how long have you been playing? And you want to give advice...

[JFarrell20]

What I mean by "heads up" is 2 players LEFT. I didn't mean it in terms of this hand, where that guy is competing against more than 1 person. I should have said "final 2, and I'm ahead".ie: I have 1.1 million, he's got .9 million and we're heads up. he pushes all in, I'm gonna think about calling, b/c he may be less likely to have a strong hand here. (of course this depends on if you think the guy needs luck to win and cant win heads up. Some ppl prefer to get lucky at the end and not actually try)And I don't understand what you mean by 'ahead'. If you call here its time to flip 'em over. Position has no relevance anymore. I thought you meant you were ahead of his chipstack? And anyway, that may be true but you are not dominating the tournament like Raymer was in '04 WSOP. That guy chased all ins b/c he actually could afford it. Right here, I don't think you can afford to chase this. In fact I know you can't. Besides, you said "today I made a crazy call". That answers it. It was crazy. And you finished on the bubble, so it was obviously not the right move. Even if you won his 700, you would not have been the dominant chipstack in the tourney. End of discussion.

[wrto4556]

End of discussion my ass. who do you think you are!?The pot was laying me 3-1. I knew my QT was ahead. This was not the one that knocked me out of the tourney. Now, quit acting like you're a badd ass, or that you're good. Because the more you post, the more we learn...about you, and how you play. You're just mad because I make you look dumb. I'm not trying to. Just puting in my two cents.

[JFarrell20]

wrto4556 said:

End of discussion my ass. who do you think you are!?The pot was laying me 3-1. I knew my QT was ahead. This was not the one that knocked me out of the tourney.  Now, quit acting like you're a badd ass, or that you're good. Because the more you post, the more we learn...about you, and how you play. You're just mad because I make you look dumb. I'm not trying to. Just puting in my two cents.

If you really think you made the right play, then wonderful! Good for you. Make that play enough though, and you'll soon realize, it's not worth it. Who am I?! Only the 5th best Holdem player in the world, pal. Off the subject, I don't understand what posting your mug on here is accomplishing. I hope you're not trying to meet girls who can teach you to play! If that's the case, you may want to show the back of your head. Just my two cents.

[wrto4556]

LMAO! That's cute.Don't envy me because i'm good looking. we're talking poker....remember?LMAO!! But you seem to pay alot of attention to my picture and not my words...why is that?LOL!!

[copernicus]

doesnt say whether he was button or one of the blinds, then the 5th best holdem player in the world (reminds me of a MAD mag cartoon where the "Best pizza on the block" has lines while the other bests in the city, state, country, world and universe are empty) doesnt bother to ask what position hes in, doesnt bother to ask what the other stacks are like, doesnt bother to ask any number of questions that might affect this decision.

[JFarrell20]

wrto4556 said:

Today I was in a tournament and I made a crazy call. The blinds were at 100/200 and I had about 2,400 in chips. The guy in the CO just lost a big pot and is down to 700 in chips. Everyone folds to him and I know he's going to go all in. I have QTo. He does the obvious and I call without thinking. Should I have?

Right here Copernicus. cut-off Pushes all in for 700 total. SB folds 100. WRTO is BB (he later said) with 200 invested. 700 total to win 800. (500 more to him).He had 2400 to start hand. That is 12XBB. I'm assuming he's at about 67-75% of the average stack??? Below average, certainly.