mrdannyg 274 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 From DN's journal. you can play him at each of the following games and get $500 for each win, or take a $2000 prize. anyone think its +EV for them to play the games?Golden Tee NBA Showtime NFL Blitz 8-Ball 9-Ball Limit Hold'em No Limit Hold'em A Game of H.O.R.S.E.in my case he'd probably be a favourite in all of the above, except of course i am by far a better No Limit Hold 'em player (SW!) so i'd take the cash.daniel Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyhockey 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Financially it's -EV. I'd give him a run in Golden Tee, but have my clock cleaned in the others.It'd be worth it though to see if DN would take you out to a bar one night and live it up, Rocks & Rings style. Link to post Share on other sites
Governator 54 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Wouldn't the whole experience be one big +EV... and no -EV at all? Maybe I've lost the poit of this contest? Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyhockey 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Wouldn't the whole experience be one big +EV... and no -EV at all? Maybe I've lost the poit of this contest?Well, if you weren't a fan of DN, then passing on the $2000 and going down and losing in all 8 games would be -EV. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Wouldn't the whole experience be one big +EV... and no -EV at all? Maybe I've lost the poit of this contest?Well, if you weren't a fan of DN, then passing on the $2000 and going down and losing in all 8 games would be -EV.I'd consider the $2000 for the Golden Tee and poker lessons very well spent.It's all +++++++++EV. Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyhockey 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Wouldn't the whole experience be one big +EV... and no -EV at all? Maybe I've lost the poit of this contest?Well, if you weren't a fan of DN, then passing on the $2000 and going down and losing in all 8 games would be -EV.I'd consider the $2000 for the Golden Tee and poker lessons very well spent.It's all +++++++++EV.Good point. Assuming he doesn't kick you in the ribs and take your wallet. Link to post Share on other sites
Incubus77546 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think I could beat him in a game of H.O.R.S.E. and possibly 9-Ball. 8-Ball "maybe" and then the rest he would kill me in. Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyhockey 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think I could beat him in a game of H.O.R.S.E. and possibly 9-Ball. 8-Ball "maybe" and then the rest he would kill me in. Â Are you basing this on the basketball version of H.O.R.S.E.? Because I assume he means the card version... Link to post Share on other sites
Socko669 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 i would lose across the board, though i might be able to put up somewhat of a fight in H.O.R.S.E... at least lose with a touch of dignity. I think the fun and experience would be far greater than 2 g's. I suck at golden tee and most sports videos games. It would be an embarassment. Link to post Share on other sites
Incubus77546 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Yeah well... I took it as the basketball version since he talks about playing basketball a lot at Erick Lindgren's house. Link to post Share on other sites
wannabe 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think I could beat him in a game of H.O.R.S.E. and possibly 9-Ball. 8-Ball "maybe" and then the rest he would kill me in. Are you basing this on the basketball version of H.O.R.S.E.? Because I assume he means the card version...I"m pretty sure he's talking about basketball.. Eric and him play HORSE all the time for cash.. and he's competitive as hell... Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyhockey 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think I could beat him in a game of H.O.R.S.E. and possibly 9-Ball. 8-Ball "maybe" and then the rest he would kill me in. Are you basing this on the basketball version of H.O.R.S.E.? Because I assume he means the card version...I"m pretty sure he's talking about basketball.. Eric and him play HORSE all the time for cash.. and he's competitive as hell...Ya, you're probably right. I just thought it would be cards because I don't think he has a court. Rolled up socks into the hamper, maybe? :wink: Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 welcome to stupid questionswhen he says H.O.R.S.E.does he mean the basketball game or the card game?? Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 i think HORSE he meant in the poker sense, in other words he'd kill us all. literally. not just like in hold 'em where he'd win, but the win would be so thorough...you get the idea.p.s. how would you handicap someone average/terrible (me, per se) against DN? obviously a huge underdog, but i think its a valid question. my strategy would simply be to push all-in in almost any situation. at worst then when DN called i would be about a 83/17 underdog, and i could probably get it much closer to a 30-40% underdog. so that means my odds of winning should likely be at worst 20% or so. and i would probably only have to win one hand since i'd steal a few blinds with my ludicrous strategy.just a thought!danielp.s. my original post was not taking into account the rest of the contest, like having a fun time hanging out with DN and all the rest, to which money is obviously only a secondary (tertiary?) consideration. Link to post Share on other sites
CieloAzor 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Golden Tee is the only one I couldn't possibly win. I'd probably be a dog at the rest but I wouldn't go 0 for 9. My chances of winning 5 or more would be horrible. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think it has to be +EV, since you can't lose money to Daniel if he beats you.So the expectation for a game is p*500Where p is the probability you will beat Daniel.As long as p is not zero, the match is +EV. Link to post Share on other sites
ggriffin 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 i think he's talking about bball too when he talks about playing horse. like the other guy said he talks about playin with edog and what not.and thats my worthless two cents Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyhockey 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I think it has to be +EV, since you can't lose money to Daniel if he beats you.So the expectation for a game is p*500Where p is the probability you will beat Daniel.As long as p is not zero, the match is +EV.Ya, I just think people are referring to saying no to the 2 grand, and trying to win more in the 'gambler's olympics' if you will.So your equation is right, but you're starting at Y. Where Y = (-$2000) Link to post Share on other sites
-caveman- 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I don't imagine me winning in any of the poker games or video games, but I think i could rough him up in both pool games. Link to post Share on other sites
dpianomn 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 i'd take the weekend in a heartbeat. i'd have to practice up on some video games--too bad tiger woods 2005 is not on the list! and i'd actually really look forward to the limit hold 'em challenge the most Link to post Share on other sites
dmoneypoker 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 From DN's journal. you can play him at each of the following games and get $500 for each win, or take a $2000 prize. anyone think its +EV for them to play the games?Golden Tee NBA Showtime NFL Blitz 8-Ball 9-Ball Limit Hold'em No Limit Hold'em A Game of H.O.R.S.E.in my case he'd probably be a favourite in all of the above, except of course i am by far a better No Limit Hold 'em player (SW!) so i'd take the cash.danielpretty sure i could beat him in blitz and showtime unless he's absolutely UNREAL...if i won a 3rd event it would be the NL where i would go all in every hand until he called and hope for the best. seriously, if i found myself heads up vs danny or any other pro this would be my best shot haha, and probably the best shot for any of us.i suck at pool, never played golden tee and as for limit and horse... i don't think i could suck out enough to beat him. unless i learn how to base deal. Link to post Share on other sites
elkang 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 there is more to EV than money.Meanwhile, I would spend about some serious time and coin to train for these events. I think I have a better chance at the poker (due to cards) than the video games. Link to post Share on other sites
jasonmason 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 anyone that takes the 2 grand is an idiot. if you're big enough of a fan to try to create a logo (i cant possibly create anything decent and im gonna give it a shot) then its worth two grand even for the experience, forget about airfare to vegas and stuff. I probably would lose out if I played that but I'd give it a shot anyway.. even though I could definately use two grand right now . . . but none of that matters because i suck at graphic design etc Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyhockey 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Financially it's -EV.I was speaking of finances, strictly. I would obviously go down and celebrate DN's final bachelor days with him. Link to post Share on other sites
indianachris 0 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I would love to play DN at HORSE (card game). To bad I didn't enter the contest. Link to post Share on other sites
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