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[TJ_Eckleburg]

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converterPreflop: Getting Huckled is Button with [Ah], [Jc]. 2 folds, BB calls, MP1 calls.My read on the limper is he's loose/passive. Easy button raise.Flop: (6.50 SB) [Ks], [6s], [Ts] (3 players)BB checks, MP1 checks, Getting Huckled bets, BB folds, MP1 calls.My general assumption of low limit hold'em is you should almost always autobet any flop you raise preflop and it's checked to you. Fold equity alone justifies it (unless they're sneaky enough to checkraise... but you don't see much of that below 3/6). Is that a correct assumption? Is it applicable here? I have a somewhat worthless gutshot... and it was checked to me on the button for the flop I raised.Turn: (4.25 BB) [Qs] (2 players)MP1 checks, Getting Huckled checks.Well... there's my gutshot. I think what I was thinking here was that I'm going to see a showdown, and at no point pay more than one bet on any street to get there.River: (4.25 BB) [Qd] (2 players)MP1 bets, Getting Huckled calls.As if my straight wasn't as non-nutty enough, the board pairs on the end.Final Pot: 6.25 BBBy the river, I have conflicting values. One is "never get bluffed on the river if you have anything more than a busted draw or A-high, ever." The other is "don't worthlessly light money on fire in small pots where you have little to no information on your opponent."Should I have bet the flop?Should I have called the river?

[Absolute]

No offense, but you played this like an idiot.,Bet the turn raise the river.

[TJ_Eckleburg]

All I knew was I was definitely doing something wrong.You see the 4 spades by the turn, right? (not being insulting, just clarifying).Sounds an awful lot like chipspewing if I should be jamming.

[Rocketwadster]

I think the fourth spade is exactly why you need to bet the turn. The board pairing on the river is also another betting spot. Don't judge the results (whether good or bad) of this hand as what you should have done (meaning that I think you did not play it correctly, but you may have saved yourself some money if you lost this hand). :wink:

[TJ_Eckleburg]

The turn bet I can understand, in retrospect.But the river too? If he has the 4 of spades he's at least calling.

[Rocketwadster]

TJ_Eckleburg said:

The turn bet I can understand, in retrospect.But the river too?  If he has the 4 of spades he's at least calling.

Betting the turn completely (for the most part) changes what he is going to do on the river. You failed to bet the turn, so he doesn't peg you for a spade or the straight. Now you are left with a decision. Don't give him the offensive... :wink:

[pokerchris]

I would check the turn, as you did, with the intention of snapping off a bluff on teh river...if you think he would fold like the 7 of spades, then a turn bet is appropriate, but if he's calling with ANY SPADE< you need to check the turn and call the river...if he checks twice, I would still probably check as other than three queens there is very little he can call you with that doesn't beat you...

[cdddc75]

Bet that turn. Stay on the gas until MP1 plays back at you, then call down. MP1 fired a standard bet at your weakness on the river. Who knows if calling or raising is correct? We've got no clue what he has. Firing at the turn gives us a better idea.

[TJ_Eckleburg]

I just can't get it out of my head that if I wasn't nakedly aggressive, I was playing ultra weak. If I was being aggressive, then I was chipspewing.Is chipspewing into the occassional loss preferred? Will it make people lay down no good spades in this situation? Is the pot big enough to warrant trying?thanks guys.I'm wondering if at some point I should have folded because the pot was awful small and heads up from the flop on.