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[Roark_8]

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [As], [8s]. UTG raises, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (10 SB) [5s], [Kc], [3h] (5 players)SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.Turn: (7 BB) [7s] (4 players)SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls, SB calls.River: (11 BB) [Ad] (4 players)SB checks, BB bets, Hero ...The rest of the hand doesn't matter if was a bad play PF. I'm trying to eliminate Cold calls, but on loose passive tables, I'm trying to find the hands I should cold call with (if any). I did here because there was at least 1 caller in front of me with potencial for behind me with the way the table had been running. Also, in theory A8s has a little more EV than A3s? I think I played the rest of the hand marginally as the flop call was bad: 12 to 1 with 3 dirty outs and 1 clean (BD flush), etc. So I'm aware that the hand was played poorly, but I'm just wondering if cold calling with A(X>4)s and PP> 44 or 55 is +EV on passive micro limit tables where you see 5 people to the flop in a raised pot. Roark

[princeof56k]

If I'm going to call 2 cold, I like to have more cold callers between me and the original raiser. Here you didnt have any so it seems risky to me.

[econ_tim]

I fold preflop.Maybe cold call with Ax suited if there are more people already in.

[Blink20]

Bad Cold CallIf you are going to be playing limit, def read SSHE. The reason I can comment on this limit hand is because its an easy error to spot. There's not too many hands you are going to cold call a raise with. This is not one of them.

[cdddc75]

Blink20 said:

Bad Cold CallIf you are going to be playing limit, def read SSHE. The reason I can comment on this limit hand is because its an easy error to spot. There's not too many hands you are going to cold call a raise with. This is not one of them.

[Blink20]

cdddc75 said:

Blink20 said:

Bad Cold CallIf you are going to be playing limit, def read SSHE. The reason I can comment on this limit hand is because its an easy error to spot. There's not too many hands you are going to cold call a raise with. This is not one of them.

Sweet...Step one for me, I will take that as I commented correctly on a limit handBaby steps for me :-)

[Absolute]

econ_tim said:

I fold preflop.Maybe cold call with Ax suited if there are more people already in.

Limping in here in MP2 with two people in front of you is ok.

[Roark_8]

Blink20 said:

Bad Cold CallIf you are going to be playing limit, def read SSHE. The reason I can comment on this limit hand is because its an easy error to spot. There's not too many hands you are going to cold call a raise with. This is not one of them.

Okay, then what is? If I had one more limper? A10s with the same amount of people in? I know the line is fuzzy, but I want to at least get a starting point. Do people call with 55 in that same situation (1 raise, 1 caller, MP)?

[Blink20]

It's basically the gap concept in play:You need a better hand to call a raise with then to actually raise with.Also, if you are going to play a speculative hand, you need more limpers.

[econ_tim]

Here are some guidlines:In excel http://www.jade-drag...ker/preflop.xlsor in PDF http://www.gravity-i...e.com/limit.pdf

[cdddc75]

Absolute said:

econ_tim said:

I fold preflop.Maybe cold call with Ax suited if there are more people already in.

Limping in here in MP2 with two people in front of you is ok.

Limping here with MP2 would be great. Cold overcalling a raise from UTG is bad. You already know this though, maybe you missed the UTG raise?

[Absolute]

cdddc75 said:

Absolute said:

econ_tim said:

I fold preflop.Maybe cold call with Ax suited if there are more people already in.

Limping in here in MP2 with two people in front of you is ok.

Limping here with MP2 would be great. Cold overcalling a raise from UTG is bad. You already know this though, maybe you missed the UTG raise?

Wow yeah I did miss the UTG raise.I need to stop doin that.