betting out with quads

[bascomeb 0]

Have you ever flopped quads with 1 card to it and just bet out or raised with it on the flop. I tried this when my opponent bet into me and it worked perfectly. Here is the handParty Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 max, 6 handed) converterMP ($48.5)CO ($28.05)Hero ($50.47)SB ($46.5)BB ($49.72)UTG ($9.42)Preflop: Hero is Button with [9h], [Kc]. SB posts a blind of $0.25. 2 folds, BB checks.Flop: ($1.75) [9d], [9s], [9c] (3 players)BB checks, CO bets $2, BB folds, CO calls $4.Turn: ($13.75) [7h] (2 players)River: ($35.30) [2c] (2 players)Final Pot: $35.30Results in white below: CO has 6c Ah (three of a kind, nines). Hero has 9h Kc (four of a kind, nines). Outcome: Hero wins $35.30. I just laughed at him. He obviously thought my raise was a bluff as he was trying to do. I mean who bets out quads right? haha

[Blink20 0]

I just laughed at him. He obviously thought my raise was a bluff as he was trying to do. I mean who bets out quads right? haha

You could just as easily be betting something like 77 or 10 10 and not want the ov ers to catch up, so he may decide not to chase his three outer to catch up. I do however like to bet out with monsters into very loose/passive tables b/c its best to just build the pot, they don't care, they will call :-)

[cdddc75 0]

fold prefloppraise the poker gods for an opponent who hates money

[Blink20 0]

fold prefloppraise the poker gods for an opponent who hates money

Fold preflop indeed. I didn't notice that because I'm actually responding to the point of the thread ;-)

[Absolute 0]

Have you ever flopped quads with 1 card to it and just bet out or raised with it on the flop. I tried this when my opponent bet into me and it worked perfectly. Here is the handParty Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 max, 6 handed) converterMP ($48.5)CO ($28.05)Hero ($50.47)SB ($46.5)BB ($49.72)UTG ($9.42)Preflop: Hero is Button with [9h], [Kc]. SB posts a blind of $0.25. 2 folds, BB checks.Flop: ($1.75) [9d], [9s], [9c] (3 players)BB checks, CO bets $2, BB folds, CO calls $4.Turn: ($13.75) [7h] (2 players)River: ($35.30) [2c] (2 players)Final Pot: $35.30Results in white below: CO has 6c Ah (three of a kind, nines). Hero has 9h Kc (four of a kind, nines). Outcome: Hero wins $35.30. I just laughed at him. He obviously thought my raise was a bluff as he was trying to do. I mean who bets out quads right? haha

Why do people post hands when they get lucky with junk? Do they think that everyone will look past the horrible pre-flop calls

[cdddc75 0]

Why do people post hands when they get lucky with junk? Do they think that everyone will look past the horrible pre-flop calls

Some people think that having a sucker bet into them when they hit quads with a garbage hand is impressive.I don't get it either.

[dapokerbum 0]

Absolute wrote: Why do people post hands when they get lucky with junk? Do they think that everyone will look past the horrible pre-flop calls

I'm not sure if you saw but for one he was on the button two it is six handed and three it is N/L. I would say it was a marginal hand definitely not complete junk. You guys need to get away from the scared poker and start playing some power poker.in the immortal words of Scotty Ngyuen "It's No Limit...don't you know you don't need a hand to win in No Limit"

[cdddc75 0]

Absolute wrote: Why do people post hands when they get lucky with junk? Do they think that everyone will look past the horrible pre-flop calls

I'm not sure if you saw but for one he was on the button two it is six handed and three it is N/L. I would say it was a marginal hand definitely not complete junk. You guys need to get away from the scared poker and start playing some power poker.in the immortal words of Scotty Ngyuen "It's No Limit...don't you know you don't need a hand to win in No Limit"

Any moron can play power poker after flopping quads.A power play would be to raise this marginal hand preflop instead of limping.For crying out loud, OP's hand wasn't even SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTED.

[dapokerbum 0]

I'm just saying that everyone here has been berating this guy for calling with a marginal hand. Nothing wrong with that in N/L 6-handed play. If it were a 10 handed game of course you have to raise if you are going to play this hand IMO

[cdddc75 0]

I'm just saying that everyone here has been berating this guy for calling with a marginal hand. Nothing wrong with that in N/L 6-handed play. If it were a 10 handed game of course you have to raise if you are going to play this hand IMO

Well if that's the case, any two cards are as good as any two others.If you're going to limp with K9 off from the button, why not limp with 92 off? You never know when you'll flop quads.

[allinbluff35 0]

I'm just saying that everyone here has been berating this guy for calling with a marginal hand. Nothing wrong with that in N/L 6-handed play. If it were a 10 handed game of course you have to raise if you are going to play this hand IMO

you raise K9os?

[bascomeb 0]

Absolute wrote: Why do people post hands when they get lucky with junk? Do they think that everyone will look past the horrible pre-flop calls

I'm not sure if you saw but for one he was on the button two it is six handed and three it is N/L. I would say it was a marginal hand definitely not complete junk. You guys need to get away from the scared poker and start playing some power poker.in the immortal words of Scotty Ngyuen "It's No Limit...don't you know you don't need a hand to win in No Limit"

Any moron can play power poker after flopping quads.A power play would be to raise this marginal hand preflop instead of limping.For crying out loud, OP's hand wasn't even SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTED.

THIS ISN'T LIMIT YOU IDIOT!!! ITS CALLED NO LIMIT! Sometimes i call with marginals hands becuase i can play them during the hand. My style is aggressive and I like to play flops. That is why I PLAY 6 HANDED IDIOT! This isn't a full ring game of limit. I know when to fold K9 if flop is King and someoen is betting into me. I know how to play it. So don't talk at all you limit freak

[dapokerbum 0]

no because 92 off isn't a marginal hand anymore that is just plain crazy. The fact is there are a plethera off possibilities in Hold em and you know this just as well as I do. THere are more possibilities with K9 than 92. If he had said so i called with 92 I would be right there with you telling him what a numbskull call that is but as i said before for one it is 6 handed you have to open your calling possibilities a little bit more for that type of game.

[bascomeb 0]

I'm just saying that everyone here has been berating this guy for calling with a marginal hand. Nothing wrong with that in N/L 6-handed play. If it were a 10 handed game of course you have to raise if you are going to play this hand IMO

you raise K9os?

I did not raise. I called ON THE BUTTON 6 HANDED!!!Keep playing ABC Poker and making $4 an hour limit freaks

[allinbluff35 0]

I'm just saying that everyone here has been berating this guy for calling with a marginal hand. Nothing wrong with that in N/L 6-handed play. If it were a 10 handed game of course you have to raise if you are going to play this hand IMO

you raise K9os?

I did not raise. I called ON THE BUTTON 6 HANDED!!!Keep playing ABC Poker and making $4 an hour limit freaks

I wasn't quoting you dumbass, learn to read

[Absolute 0]

I'm just saying that everyone here has been berating this guy for calling with a marginal hand. Nothing wrong with that in N/L 6-handed play. If it were a 10 handed game of course you have to raise if you are going to play this hand IMO

You don't really know what you are talking about.There is a common misconception that you have to play a plethra of new hands 6 handed. K9o is NOT a limp in a 6 handed game from any position. It is garbage, treat it as so.Just because this is Daniel Negreanu's website and you have seen him play 46s doesn't mean you can justify playing any hand in position.It is an easy fold pre-flop.

[dapokerbum 0]

dapokerbum wrote: I'm just saying that everyone here has been berating this guy for calling with a marginal hand. Nothing wrong with that in N/L 6-handed play. If it were a 10 handed game of course you have to raise if you are going to play this hand IMO you raise K9os?

No i was saying that in a 10 handed game IF i were to play K9o on the button then I would have to raise otherwise I might as well fold

[cdddc75 0]

THIS ISN'T LIMIT YOU IDIOT!!! ITS CALLED NO LIMIT! Sometimes i call with marginals hands becuase i can play them during the hand. My style is aggressive and I like to play flops. That is why I PLAY 6 HANDED IDIOT! This isn't a full ring game of limit. I know when to fold K9 if flop is King and someoen is betting into me. I know how to play it. So don't talk at all you limit freak

Congratulations for catching quads with a marginal hand and, more importantly, catching them against someone who hates money.Do you want a cookie too? The money should really be its own reward here.ANYONE could play flopped quads. Even JFarrell20.

[cdddc75 0]

no because 92 off isn't a marginal hand anymore that is just plain crazy. The fact is there are a plethera off possibilities in Hold em and you know this just as well as I do. THere are more possibilities with K9 than 92. If he had said so i called with 92 I would be right there with you telling him what a numbskull call that is but as i said before for one it is 6 handed you have to open your calling possibilities a little bit more for that type of game.

True, there are more possibilities with K9 off than 92 off. You might catch a king and trap yourself against a higher kicker, for one. Um...uh...hmmm, what other differences are there that are highly profitable between K9 and 92? Flopping QJT?

[dapokerbum 0]

You don't really know what you are talking about.

How long have you been playing poker? Do you play Limit or N/L??Just wondering if you have the room to talk...not to start a flaming war.

[Absolute 0]

You don't really know what you are talking about.

How long have you been playing poker? Do you play Limit or N/L??Just wondering if you have the room to talk...not to start a flaming war.

Long enough to know what plays and what doesn't.I have room to talk.Its your choice to listen or not to.

[bascomeb 0]

ANYONE could play flopped quads. Even JFarrell20.

Actually, If I just called his bet on the flop he would've suspected the call and thought maybe i flopped quads. The raise however led him to believe that I didn't have it and made a bluff of his own to take the pot away from me. I think this was the only way I could play this hand to bust this guy. If I just call on the flop there is no way he suddenly goes all in on the turn IMO.And your still not getting the point. K9 is garbage in a 10 handed game. In 6 handed ON THE BUTTON, WHICH I PLAY CRAP HANDS TO TAKE HANDS AWAY LATER ON THE FLOP, ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!, its an ok hand. Listen cdddc75 if you want to play heads up NL then I'll play you for any amount up to $100. Otherwise, just shutup about my play.Back to the point to all NO LIMIT PLAYERS. LIMIT PLAYERS KEEP YOUR ****ING MOUTH SHUT: Is it best to bet out quads here to build the pot for someone who has a pocket pair? Betting out quads will make the opponent think because most people think that slowplaying quads is best

[dapokerbum 0]

True, there are more possibilities with K9 off than 92 off. You might catch a king and trap yourself against a higher kicker, for one. Um...uh...hmmm, what other differences are there that are highly profitable between K9 and 92? Flopping QJT?

I am saying this is marginal and I understand that there might be higher kickers to deal with but for the most part you might have the lone K in your hand and if one comes on the flop w/o an Ace then you have the TP and can come out on top. I'm not saying this is a GREAT hand i am only saying that it is not garbage. Plus he only called with it.

[cdddc75 0]

Listen cdddc75 if you want to play heads up NL then I'll play you for any amount up to $100. Otherwise, just shutup about my play.

I always love the "I don't like your reply to my plea for validation, I challenge you to a duel" card. It really proves the point well. I should accept your challenge for $1, but I'm lazy.

Back to the point to all NO LIMIT PLAYERS. LIMIT PLAYERS KEEP YOUR censored MOUTH SHUT: Is it best to bet out quads here to build the pot for someone who has a pocket pair? Betting out quads will make the opponent think because most people think that slowplaying quads is best

You really should have a linked another flopped quads hand of yours where you would have to bet out instead of deciding between a call and a raise. But I know nothing about NL poker, so please ignore such a stupid detail.I'm just puzzled as to why you bothered to ask the question in the first place when you already have all the answers. If this thread isn't begging for validation, what is it? It's certainly not about an honest discussion of NL strategy.

[dapokerbum 0]

Long enough to know what plays and what doesn't. I have room to talk. Its your choice to listen or not to.

Just wondering I have been playing three years not very long but well enough where I can see that playing the players and position is very important in this game. The only thing in poker is not starting hands that is only half the battle in this game.And since you can't tell me how long then I will assume you have less than two years experience so that is fine you will learn with time how to play even the marginal hands. Good luck young man