econ_tim 0 Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 Full Tilt $.50/$1 (withdrew $800 to deposit at Noble)Preflop: econ_timecon_tim calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (4 SB) [9c Th 3c]SB bets, 1 fold, econ_tim Button calls, SB calls.Turn: (5 BB) [7h]SB checks, econ_tim checks, Button checks.River: (5 BB) [8d]SB bets, econ_tim calls.Final pot: (14 BB)On flop was trying to buy free card, didn't work. On river thought calling might win more than raising, then wasn't sure about reraise. Unlikely Button would call two cold on flop with QJ (unless he also had club draw), but he could easily have a lone J. Link to post Share on other sites
Kendren 1 Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 I think QJ bets on the turn to try and punish anybody with a newly found heart draw. I would 3 bet this with 2 others in the pot with me. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted June 3, 2005 Share Posted June 3, 2005 SB probably hit a pair, then checked on the turn as you representing a better pair. He might've hit two pair on the river, or might've taken your check on the turn as he had the best hand. You might be splitting with another lone J, in which case cap the river. You'd be putting in 1/3 of the money to win 1/2. But I've seen a lot of players bet into a PF raiser with draws, and the button calling 2 cold on the flop screams OESD. So, I like the play here, You could be splitting but you could just as easily be beat.EDIT: I doubt QJ bets the turn to punish flush draws. The draw isn't folding and QJ has nothing yet but Q high. In fact, they have fewer outs now than they did before. Plus most players at this limit don't understand the concept of punishing draws. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Raise preflop.Because you didn't raise, the pot is too small on the flop to raise. You *barely* have enough odds to call...if you even do. The flop is close between calling and folding.The rest of the hand was played good. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 I agree with raising preflop since it is seven handed. I guess I need to better adjust my play as people leave and enter the game. Usually it is nine-handed, and sometimes I don't notice people leaving since I'm multi-tabling.If this was nine-handed, would you still raise preflop? Link to post Share on other sites
avsfan 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 I agree with raising preflop since it is seven handed. I guess I need to better adjust my play as people leave and enter the game. Usually it is nine-handed, and sometimes I don't notice people leaving since I'm multi-tabling.If this was nine-handed, would you still raise preflop?If I play it. I am raising it 9-10 handed. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 this is definately a hand you either raise or fold PF. 7 handed, 9 handed, doesnt matter. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Raise preflop.Because you didn't raise, the pot is too small on the flop to raise. You *barely* have enough odds to call...if you even do. The flop is close between calling and folding.The rest of the hand was played good.Actually, if you think you can get a free card often enough by raising, it might be ok. I have to run some calcs.Raise AJo no matter how many people. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Open limping with a high card hand is brutal. You don't want multiway action with that hand.Raise the river. No reason to limit yourself to an overcall there. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Author Share Posted June 4, 2005 Thanks for the advice. I'm finding that SSHE repays careful review. From page 73, under Big Offsuit Broadways: Raise any of these hands if it has not already been raised. I guess it didn't stick with me the the first time and it doesn't show up in the hand chart, but it's there nonetheless. Anyway, I made some adjustments to my preflop play tonight and I'm feeling pretty good about it. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Open limping with a high card hand is brutal. You don't want multiway action with that hand.Raise the river. No reason to limit yourself to an overcall there.no. You want overcalls because it's either a split or your beat. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Open limping with a high card hand is brutal. You don't want multiway action with that hand.Raise the river. No reason to limit yourself to an overcall there.no. You want overcalls because it's either a split or your beat.SB never bets a 6 there? Or fires out with two pair after the turn gets checked?I'll take my chances here by raising. I'm not capping though. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Man, im fucking retarded. I forgot the SB was the one that bet into us on the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 Man, im fucking retarded. I forgot the SB was the one that bet into us on the flop.It's Friday night. No worries. I've got people capping against me when I flop quads and such.Good times. Link to post Share on other sites
monoatomic 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 ahh yes it is friday...hahaha..Was wondering why I just had a 100bb upswing, and I didn't recognize anyone I was sitting with. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 ahh yes it is friday...hahaha..Was wondering why I just had a 100bb upswing, and I didn't recognize anyone I was sitting with.I Friday night poker! Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted June 4, 2005 Share Posted June 4, 2005 I Friday night poker!I lkove Friday night Jack n Coke. And the O8 players at Absolute Poker... Link to post Share on other sites
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