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Posted 15 September 2015 - 04:34 PM

Need a thread for this as we are all going to make some money this hockey season.
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 04:38 PM

I got so many cool ideas for stuff we can do for hockey..We can have a contest where you can only pick your own players for Saturday night..

Or just a weekly Saturday night League, where you can win and earn points every week...

I love this
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Posted 15 September 2015 - 05:38 PM

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Posted 15 September 2015 - 06:25 PM

View Postgruven, on 15 September 2015 - 05:38 PM, said:

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 02:33 AM

I signed up on draft kings a while back. I got a free play into a $2 daily so I played MLB. I came 2nd/125. I took all my winnings and put it into NFL that weekend and now I am broke.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 03:15 AM

Easiest sport on Draft Kings to win money on for a rookie?
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 03:20 AM

I want to start betting on hockey, but I have a feeling I have to try to forget everything I know about it in order to win consistently.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 06:25 AM

Chris, is there a league standard for recording shots on goal? Does each building have its own scorers?
I remember years ago that the Bruins (esp. Bourque) used to lead the league in shots because their scorers were homers.

It can be pretty significant if it's still like that because each SOG is 0.2 pt on Draftkings and 0.4 pt on FanDuel
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 06:35 AM

There's a big difference from rink to rink. I believe the shot clock guys are employed by the league. I know the guy in Minnesota is a super hero who is super stingy with handing out shots on goal

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 07:13 AM

View Postdigitalmonkey, on 16 September 2015 - 03:20 AM, said:

I want to start betting on hockey, but I have a feeling I have to try to forget everything I know about it in order to win consistently.

You just need to put the hours in to run the numbers..You will do OK, with lots of homework..
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:35 AM

View Postserge, on 16 September 2015 - 07:13 AM, said:

You just need to put the hours in to run the numbers..You will do OK, with lots of homework..
No you won't. You're up against genius' who know and care nothing about the sport. As was mentioned before, it's a mathematical problem to them, not a sporting event. And they miss occasionally, but their overall consistency is pretty sick.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:39 AM

Is there a reason why WE need DFS, if we are just going to play against each other?


Good luck to those of you going for it on DFS, I am curious to see how it goes, I would hope everyone would be completely honest. I know I will check out hockey before it starts, because I will believe I have an edge on others who do not study hockey players like I do, but I dont think that edge works in THAT game, once you add the salary cap+specific stats.

Does anyone know how DraftPot works?

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:42 AM

View PostMapleLeafpoker, on 16 September 2015 - 08:39 AM, said:

Is there a reason why WE need DFS, if we are just going to play against each other?


Good luck to those of you going for it on DFS, I am curious to see how it goes, I would hope everyone would be completely honest. I know I will check out hockey before it starts, because I will believe I have an edge on others who do not study hockey players like I do, but I dont think that edge works in THAT game, once you add the salary cap+specific stats.

Does anyone know how DraftPot works?

Mainly because the software is awesome..Looks like Draftpot is one of the many other sites that are out there.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:44 AM

View Postserge, on 16 September 2015 - 08:42 AM, said:

Mainly because the software is awesome..


You mean the convenience of being able to pick on your phone/comp, and then have the scores tabulated live?
So that service you like?

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:47 AM

View PostMapleLeafpoker, on 16 September 2015 - 08:44 AM, said:

You mean the convenience of being able to pick on your phone/comp, and then have the scores tabulated live?
So that service you like?

Yes most definetely.

I think there are a lot of companies now trying to grab a share of the market..I have only tried Draftkings and Fanduel and I prefer the DraftKings software the best right now..Yahoo who is a big company launched their own version too..

This is like Chris said 2005 Online poker where you would have sites pop up everyday trying to grab a share..
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 08:51 AM

Arp..Looks like Draftpot is a different model..No salary cap games and they do a bit different..Rake seems to be lower as well.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 09:01 AM

Also I believe Fantasy Feud has what you are looking for Arp..

They have a snakedraft option.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 09:15 AM

some quick random thoughts on the discussion that's been happening over multiple threads.

Seems like Draft Kings sets their values based on perceived value to the public, rather than actual value to the scoring system. So, since it uses a full PPR scoring system for football for instance, pass catching backs like Danny Woodhead would be undervalued. I suspect hockey and baseball are similar.

Also, player values are locked in on Monday morning, so new information gained throughout the week could drastically change a player's value, but this will not be reflected in a player's price. For instance, Carlos Hyde's rock star performance from Monday night has no bearing on his current price, as the prices were locked Monday morning.

Obviously, people running massive simulators are going to be the most successful, however it seems like there is absolutely value to be found just by following the day to day happenings around the NFL and looking for undervalued guys. Whether this information and value is enough to actually beat the rake and be profitable, I have no idea. However, like poker, I imagine you don't have to be the "best player at the table" in order to be profitable. But again, this is complete speculation on my part.

Seems to me like Hockey, Baseball, and Basketball would be the much more "solvable" sports for the simulators, as there is a whole ton of information and statistics that are not as widely used. Football, given the short length of season, more defined roles, fewer relevant fantasy players, has much more incomplete information (this is just me speculating again, I could be way off)

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Posted 16 September 2015 - 09:20 AM

View PostDubey, on 16 September 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

some quick random thoughts on the discussion that's been happening over multiple threads.

Seems like Draft Kings sets their values based on perceived value to the public, rather than actual value to the scoring system. So, since it uses a full PPR scoring system for football for instance, pass catching backs like Danny Woodhead would be undervalued. I suspect hockey and baseball are similar.

Also, player values are locked in on Monday morning, so new information gained throughout the week could drastically change a player's value, but this will not be reflected in a player's price. For instance, Carlos Hyde's rock star performance from Monday night has no bearing on his current price, as the prices were locked Monday morning.

Obviously, people running massive simulators are going to be the most successful, however it seems like there is absolutely value to be found just by following the day to day happenings around the NFL and looking for undervalued guys. Whether this information and value is enough to actually beat the rake and be profitable, I have no idea. However, like poker, I imagine you don't have to be the "best player at the table" in order to be profitable. But again, this is complete speculation on my part.

Seems to me like Hockey, Baseball, and Basketball would be the much more "solvable" sports for the simulators, as there is a whole ton of information and statistics that are not as widely used. Football, given the short length of season, more defined roles, fewer relevant fantasy players, has much more incomplete information (this is just me speculating again, I could be way off)

I had to read again to see that the first 3 paragraphs were written by you, since it really sounds like 'suckers reasoning' in the sense that any high-level guys would have all that information, and be better able than me or you to incorporate it into their models, especially hard to measure stuff like breakout performances, effects of injury, etc.

I do agree with the last that football would be the least solvable, given a variety of factors, including how one small change can have a huge effect on multiple players, and the correlation between players that would only be somewhat matched by choosing linemates in hockey.
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Posted 16 September 2015 - 09:23 AM

View PostDubey, on 16 September 2015 - 09:15 AM, said:

some quick random thoughts on the discussion that's been happening over multiple threads.

Seems like Draft Kings sets their values based on perceived value to the public, rather than actual value to the scoring system. So, since it uses a full PPR scoring system for football for instance, pass catching backs like Danny Woodhead would be undervalued. I suspect hockey and baseball are similar.

Also, player values are locked in on Monday morning, so new information gained throughout the week could drastically change a player's value, but this will not be reflected in a player's price. For instance, Carlos Hyde's rock star performance from Monday night has no bearing on his current price, as the prices were locked Monday morning.

Obviously, people running massive simulators are going to be the most successful, however it seems like there is absolutely value to be found just by following the day to day happenings around the NFL and looking for undervalued guys. Whether this information and value is enough to actually beat the rake and be profitable, I have no idea. However, like poker, I imagine you don't have to be the "best player at the table" in order to be profitable. But again, this is complete speculation on my part.

Seems to me like Hockey, Baseball, and Basketball would be the much more "solvable" sports for the simulators, as there is a whole ton of information and statistics that are not as widely used. Football, given the short length of season, more defined roles, fewer relevant fantasy players, has much more incomplete information (this is just me speculating again, I could be way off)

Very good points...

Do we believe that Hockey might be a better option for the hardcore hockey guy as the amount of people involved in fantasy hockey is so small compared to Football? Seems like EVERYONE here plays fantasy football..From the traditional gambler to the elementary teacher...

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