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Posted 06 September 2013 - 02:54 PM

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 03:19 PM

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 04:25 PM

I listened to your (DN's) first rant on this subject. I think I have the jist of it, sir; you do not like this rule, and how dare they place in a new rule or modify any of them without consulting your highness and other gods of poker like you, first. Sorry MR N, only now you have gone to describing "other players" generally and distanced yourself from "those of you who are high rollers" (paraphrasing, sorry) in your first posted rant. The one you opined in that top tier customers like you should be, basically, placed above mere mortal players and be first consulted with, before any rules that affect you are put into place. LMAO. Sure, how dare DN not be allowed to hold up a game if he decides to walk away from the table to sign a fans tee-shirt during the game and the table has to wait on him. Come down off the horse a minute, will you? You sounded like an incredible snob, IMHO.

So, you then decide to push it as far as you can deliberately (come on DN, who you think you are kidding? Like you did not do this on purpose? Please!) and get smacked for it. Then it's down to the old reliable "take my ball and go home", drawing attention to how unfair this rule is. Despite acknowledging a clear part of the rule that leaves judgement to the house, you still whine on about it worse than Phil Hellmuth getting beat by a lesser hand. Nice try, yet I am not buying this. You knew what it could mean, yet you basically stuck your tongue out at the teacher while her back was turned and got caught. Now you cry how unfair. Look, If your intention was truly just to stretch your legs as you claim, you could have pushed the chair back and stood up right there in front of your spot at the table. You still could have said hello to your buddy at the other table (Seriously? Where is your head at? Are you saying you are such a poker master you do not really need to pay close attention to your own game?). No, instead you walked around your chair to push the rules envelope...come on, get real. I was born at night, not last night.

So, to hell with the reason this rule has come about in the first place? Lets face reality here; numerous players, unable to any longer drag out the game and run down the timer at the table (lest they face a penalty), abuse every opportunity they can to otherwise achieve the same result. Then the "little people" playing get sick of the stupid crap, complain and BAM! New rule. I am certainly not accusing DN of this cheap tactic, however, you cannot be placed above others in the game just because your absence might be legit.

Maybe the reason you and other players were not first consulted, was that the players are not in charge of running the game - the house is. Sorry, DN, but someone has to have authority and make the call on the rules as well just what the rules are and where they will come from. Stunning that they would not consult the great DN first as it may be, let me clue you in on something; you nor I run the damn game or decide on any rules whatsoever. In other words, stay in your own pay grade, because in this case, it isn't a democracy.

Honestly, I am surprised you can sit at a table with only one chair, Daniel. You need at least two more; one for your ego and another for your pacifier. A world class successful player such as you, unable to contend with having to be at the table on the first card dealt out and having to follow the rules like the rest of the players. I really feel for the dealer in this created debacle of yours. I mean, I hope to God she doesn't get reprimanded or worse because of your silly fake-as-can-get rebellious attempt to put yourself above all others. I only know one thing; as of yet, I have not heard anyone else crying about this as much, if at all, as you.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:42 PM

Nice sig nerd
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:57 PM

As someone who works in the service industry, I can tell you firsthand that the customer is not always right.

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:12 PM

View PostMPaler, on 06 September 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

I listened to your (DN's) first rant on this subject. I think I have the jist of it, sir; you do not like this rule, and how dare they place in a new rule or modify any of them without consulting your highness and other gods of poker like you, first. Sorry MR N, only now you have gone to describing "other players" generally and distanced yourself from "those of you who are high rollers" (paraphrasing, sorry) in your first posted rant. The one you opined in that top tier customers like you should be, basically, placed above mere mortal players and be first consulted with, before any rules that affect you are put into place. LMAO. Sure, how dare DN not be allowed to hold up a game if he decides to walk away from the table to sign a fans tee-shirt during the game and the table has to wait on him. Come down off the horse a minute, will you? You sounded like an incredible snob, IMHO.

So, you then decide to push it as far as you can deliberately (come on DN, who you think you are kidding? Like you did not do this on purpose? Please!) and get smacked for it. Then it's down to the old reliable "take my ball and go home", drawing attention to how unfair this rule is. Despite acknowledging a clear part of the rule that leaves judgement to the house, you still whine on about it worse than Phil Hellmuth getting beat by a lesser hand. Nice try, yet I am not buying this. You knew what it could mean, yet you basically stuck your tongue out at the teacher while her back was turned and got caught. Now you cry how unfair. Look, If your intention was truly just to stretch your legs as you claim, you could have pushed the chair back and stood up right there in front of your spot at the table. You still could have said hello to your buddy at the other table (Seriously? Where is your head at? Are you saying you are such a poker master you do not really need to pay close attention to your own game?). No, instead you walked around your chair to push the rules envelope...come on, get real. I was born at night, not last night.

So, to hell with the reason this rule has come about in the first place? Lets face reality here; numerous players, unable to any longer drag out the game and run down the timer at the table (lest they face a penalty), abuse every opportunity they can to otherwise achieve the same result. Then the "little people" playing get sick of the stupid crap, complain and BAM! New rule. I am certainly not accusing DN of this cheap tactic, however, you cannot be placed above others in the game just because your absence might be legit.

Maybe the reason you and other players were not first consulted, was that the players are not in charge of running the game - the house is. Sorry, DN, but someone has to have authority and make the call on the rules as well just what the rules are and where they will come from. Stunning that they would not consult the great DN first as it may be, let me clue you in on something; you nor I run the damn game or decide on any rules whatsoever. In other words, stay in your own pay grade, because in this case, it isn't a democracy.

Honestly, I am surprised you can sit at a table with only one chair, Daniel. You need at least two more; one for your ego and another for your pacifier. A world class successful player such as you, unable to contend with having to be at the table on the first card dealt out and having to follow the rules like the rest of the players. I really feel for the dealer in this created debacle of yours. I mean, I hope to God she doesn't get reprimanded or worse because of your silly fake-as-can-get rebellious attempt to put yourself above all others. I only know one thing; as of yet, I have not heard anyone else crying about this as much, if at all, as you.

Get a clue, Daniel Negreanu!

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 04:21 AM

Negreanu Doubles Through Schemion; Takes Commanding Chip Lead

Joni Jouhkimainen opened to 54,000 from the cutoff and Ole Schemion called from the button. Daniel Negreanu looked at his cards in the small blind and then announced a three-bet to 162,000. Action folded back to Jouhkimainen who mucked his cards. Schemion called and the two took a flop.

After seeing Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image fall, Negreanu continued out for 200,000. Schemion made it 430,000 to go and Negreanu sat back in his seat. A moment passed.

"I'm all in," Negreanu said with a wave of his wrist.
"Call," said Schemion quietly.

Everyone at the table perked up at the sight of this action. Negreanu showed Posted ImagePosted Image for top set while Schemion tabled Posted ImagePosted Image for a diamond flush draw.

"Ooh boy!" said Negreanu popping out of his seat. "Hold 'em!"

The turn brought the Posted Image and the river the Posted Image, allowing Negreanu to finish with tens full of kings and double up huge. Negreanu was all in for 1.386 million and was able to double to around 3.15 million. Schemion dropped to around 650,000.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:38 AM

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3,552,000 I've got out of 9 million with 4 players left in EPT Barcelona HR. Chip leader, blinds 25k-50k a win makes me #1 across the board!


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:09 AM

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One hour dinner break I have 6,145,000 3 handed out of 9 mill. Blinds will be 40k-80k won't go too much longer after dinner IMO
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:14 AM

View Postking_tanner, on 06 September 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Nice sig nerd

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:36 AM

You came in here and wrote 5 of the most boring paragraphs ever formed in English, specifically to troll DN, and We're the trolls. Get serious with your life.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:13 AM

2nd

Good game

...and regarding the OP, protect your hand. Think of Estelle Denis and others. The away from your chair rule isn't even most relevant. If you're not paying attention nor close enough to protect your hand, it is your fault IMO.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:17 AM

GG Daniel,


but back to the original post.

The TDA had an open meeting for all to discuss rule changes, especially opened to the players. You did not attend it. Even tho the rule is not a good one, you should abide by it until it is changed. Go to the next meeting to voice your concerns and change it there. Please do not whine about it here as it makes you look bad.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostMPaler, on 07 September 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:30 AM

View Postrcgs59, on 07 September 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

GG Daniel,


but back to the original post.

The TDA had an open meeting for all to discuss rule changes, especially opened to the players. You did not attend it. Even tho the rule is not a good one, you should abide by it until it is changed. Go to the next meeting to voice your concerns and change it there. Please do not whine about it here as it makes you look bad.

Kind of hard for any of the big money tourney players to attend the TDA conference when it's scheduled for exactly the same days as the Big One For One Drop. They are busy playing the WSOP and they shouldn't be expected to focus on what the bureaucrats who administer tournaments are going to decide is best for their customers.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:37 AM


Daniel Negreanu Eliminated in 2nd Place (€263,800)

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:42 AM

So I wonder if this conversation would have taken place if the rule in question would have happened.

Put yourself in the shoes of the Tournament Director of the EPT who was first to implement this rule.

Hi Poker Stars senior management. I want to implement a new rule that most of the players who you sponsor will not like and change something that nobody has really complained about. As a result of this rule change those sponsored players who you pay a pretty nice amount of money to won't be able to interact with the fans on the rail like many of them have done in the past and give them autographs or take pictures with them since if they leave their seat they risk being dealt out of the next hand. On breaks they don't have time since you know they have to eat and use the washroom.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

View PostBigDMcGee, on 07 September 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

You came in here and wrote 5 of the most boring paragraphs ever formed in English, specifically to troll DN, and We're the trolls. Get serious with your life.

At least I can write, not just post a pic of the inbred hall of fame all time problem solver. Spare me slick; you're just upset I called out your boy. Get over it.

And for gods sake, do something about your family tree; it looks odd with only one branch.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:53 AM

View PostSuitedAces21, on 07 September 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:01 PM

View PostMPaler, on 07 September 2013 - 11:52 AM, said:

Spare me slick; you're just upset I called out your boy. Get over it.

Not sure if you were around back then, but McGee's first account was back in 2004 was banned pretty early on for flaming people who thought it was racist for DN to wear blackface in a comedy skit he did. So let's keep his defense in that context.
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