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#1 Dick Danger

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 02:55 PM

Anyone read Mike Caro's comments on tournaments in the latest (I think) Poker Player?

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 02:58 PM

No, but that guy kinds of creeps me out.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 03:50 PM

"That guy" is very intelligent.
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Posted 05 January 2005 - 03:54 PM

Man Smash you are the king of post padding :)No I haven't read the article, but it would be interesting to check out. Maybe I'll go grab a copy as I don't have a subscription to Poker Player [not enough time to read it] I love some of his articles, but sometimes they seem out of touch. Granted he's usually spot on when he writes them though.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 03:56 PM

I wish he would prove his "mad genius" by winning a major tournament sometime this century. Then maybe I might buy one of his gazillion books and videos.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 03:57 PM

"That guy" is very intelligent.Sure he is.Creepy though.HAve you ever seen him speak in person? He'd look right at home on the Strip with a sign saying "Repent now the end times have come!!"There's a reason they call him "Crazy Mike"

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 04:04 PM

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HAve you ever seen him speak in person?   He'd look right at home on the Strip with a sign saying "Repent now the end times have come!!"
HAHAHAH!Yeh he does remind me of David Caresh or whatever his name was lol

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 04:07 PM

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I wish he would prove his "mad genius" by winning a major tournament sometime this century. Then maybe I might buy one of his gazillion books and videos.
Do you read Sklansky? How many tournaments has he won?It's dumb to rate a poker player by how many tournaments he has won. I think the article he is talking about is the one where "crazy mike" sais the odds of winning a big tournament are slim to none. A good player should win one BIG tournament once in 1000 years. Why play in tournaments if you can make more in a cash game?Personally, you should read everything this guy writes. He's utterly brilliant.
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Posted 05 January 2005 - 04:09 PM

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Mandelbrot said:

I wish he would prove his "mad genius" by winning a major tournament sometime this century. Then maybe I might buy one of his gazillion books and videos.
Do you read Sklansky? How many tournaments has he won?It's dumb to rate a poker player by how many tournaments he has won. I think the article he is talking about is the one where "crazy mike" sais the odds of winning a big tournament are slim to none. A good player should win one BIG tournament once in 1000 years (if you notice...very few people have defied these odds). Why play in tournaments if you can make more in a cash game?Personally, you should read everything this guy writes. He's utterly brilliant.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 04:42 PM

Dick Danger said:

Anyone read Mike Caro's comments on tournaments in the latest  (I think) Poker Player?


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Posted 05 January 2005 - 04:48 PM

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HAve you ever seen him speak in person?   He'd look right at home on the Strip with a sign saying "Repent now the end times have come!!"There's a reason they call him "Crazy Mike"
haha i couldn't agree more.. especially when his hair on either side of his head is puffed out all wild. which it's kinda like when they interview on that poker updates show at the poker conference.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:28 PM

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A good player should win one BIG tournament once in 1000 years.
I suppose then that Daniel Negreanu is just fantastically lucky for winning so many tournaments?

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:33 PM

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A good player should win one BIG tournament once in 1000 years.
I suppose then that Daniel Negreanu is just fantastically lucky for winning so many tournaments?
I said BIG tournaments...Tournament poker is alot about luck. There are so many competitors that you can't win just because you're better. Not to mention, when your broke you're done. Daniel is a good cash game player as well. Not to be rude, but you're not thinking straight. How many players can you count that have won numerous BIG tournaments. Doyle Brunson, Johnny chan, and Phil Hellmuth. They got lucky to win more than one big one. Don't get me wrong, they're good players, but everyone gets lucky. Even the greats.
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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:40 PM

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Do you read Sklansky? How many tournaments has he won?
He has at least 3 WSOP bracelets that I know of. A lot of people respect Mike Caro, and he has a ton of experience talking about strategy and consulting with casinos and tournament directors and poker room mgrs, etc... But at the end of the day, given the choice, I'd rather learn from someone who's done it than someone who's just written and lectured on it.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:45 PM

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Don't get me wrong, they're good players, but everyone gets lucky. Even the greats.
Of course, no one can expect to win every tourney they enter. But I think it's entirely reasonable to expect someone who prostelitizes about being a poker genius to have won at least a few, or even one! Mike Caro simply doesnt have the track record of success that other pros have, and therefore he's either not playing or is not winning. And in both cases, you have to wonder why...

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 05:52 PM

NOHe doesn't play in tournaments because, statistaclly, there is more money in cash games. Read what he has to say, then decide if he is good or bad. Don't measure by tournaments. That's just mainstreem bull shit. People think players are good because they are on TV. wrong.
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Posted 05 January 2005 - 06:03 PM

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I wish he would prove his "mad genius" by winning a major tournament sometime this century. Then maybe I might buy one of his gazillion books and videos.
Mike truly is a genius. The problem is that he out-thinks himself at the table. But, 99% of what he writes is right-on target though.
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Posted 05 January 2005 - 06:10 PM

didn't he calculate all the odds in poker? Fuzzy but I think that's right. Maybe he calculated all the odds in Supersystem....which was it?
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Posted 05 January 2005 - 06:26 PM

And you can't pick up the number of tells that Mike Caro has picked up without playing a hand or two.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 06:39 PM

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