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#281 Balloon guy

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 03:46 PM

View PostDubey, on 14 December 2016 - 07:30 AM, said:

"We could probably beat them in a fight" is not a good justification for antagonizing the second biggest guy in the room.

Standard rationale from you though.

Do you spend a lot of time figuring out how to spin each boneheaded thing that Trump does into your own narrative or do these occur naturally to you?

You should stick to sideline yapping, because you don't have the slightest clue about anything militarily.

I blame your nationality, you guys are worthless in international situations, and your only contribution anymore is as nurses, clerks and other predominately feminine pursuits.

China is not 2nd biggest guy in room, except in China, and then probably they are 3rd.

I never said we could probably beat them, we can beat them with half of army in anything we want, but like Canada, they get away with acting like they matter because America doesn't feel like taking it over. Although in your case it would require one if our state's national guard, and maybe a couple jeeps.

Pretend you are witty more though, it's cute. Like a little girl cute.

In the mean time Trump will show you how men act, and you will continue to be completely confused and scared.

It's okay, we'll protect you. Like always. Because you guys are irrelevant to everything going on in the world.

Kind of like Chad...and New Zealand

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 04:21 PM

Ah I'm devastated. The orally fixated guy with the low self-esteem insulted my nationality.


Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous.

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 05:11 PM

3 male/female references with a negative connotation to the female side in one short post.

Some kinda complex you have going on there BG.


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Posted 14 December 2016 - 05:41 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on 14 December 2016 - 03:46 PM, said:

You should stick to sideline yapping, because you don't have the slightest clue about anything militarily.

I blame your nationality, you guys are worthless in international situations, and your only contribution anymore is as nurses, clerks and other predominately feminine pursuits.

China is not 2nd biggest guy in room, except in China, and then probably they are 3rd.

I never said we could probably beat them, we can beat them with half of army in anything we want, but like Canada, they get away with acting like they matter because America doesn't feel like taking it over. Although in your case it would require one if our state's national guard, and maybe a couple jeeps.

Pretend you are witty more though, it's cute. Like a little girl cute.

In the mean time Trump will show you how men act, and you will continue to be completely confused and scared.

It's okay, we'll protect you. Like always. Because you guys are irrelevant to everything going on in the world.

Kind of like Chad...and New Zealand

Yeah! Women are weak! Men are strong! Murica's the best! Err...Make America Great Again! Canada is full of girly men! Grab em by the p*ssy! Thanks Obama! Go Trump!

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Posted 14 December 2016 - 10:18 PM

Gammas going to gamma
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Posted 15 December 2016 - 06:27 AM

Gamma? As in a woman of distinction?
Reading your words I wouldn't think you believed such women existed.
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Posted 15 December 2016 - 07:27 AM

View PostBalloon guy, on 14 December 2016 - 10:18 PM, said:

Gammas going to gamma

Insecure wannabe alpha males gonna alpha.

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Posted 16 December 2016 - 07:48 AM

Again, you're doing it wrong.

If I 'alpha', then I'm not a 'wannabe'.

You can learn, but it will require effort on your part.
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Posted 16 December 2016 - 08:18 AM

View PostDubey, on 15 December 2016 - 07:27 AM, said:



Insecure wannabe alpha males gonna wannabe alpha.

better?

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Posted 17 December 2016 - 02:49 PM

Remember the 'Thucydides Trap'? The Chinese Do; Trump Clearly Does Not


The idea Allison was getting across—that managing relations between the United States and China is enormously important, and also very complex, and not guaranteed to turn out well—is built into the themes Henry Kissinger was expressing to Jeffrey Goldberg in the interview in that same issue, and that I was explaining in my article, and that every U.S. president from Richard Nixon through Obama has reflected upon and, with some variations, built into his policy toward China, the Koreas, Japan, Asia, and the world as a whole.

Reduced to three elements, the policy would be:
  • Relations with China really matter, for each country’s interests and for the world’s;
  • They’re very complex and less obvious than they seem, in part because the Chinese government sees the world differently from the U.S. government in some important ways; and
  • If poorly managed, they can lead to great danger, even the unlikely-but-conceivable military showdown. This is another way of stating the first point, with emphasis on the downside.

In his press conference yesterday, Barack Obama lightly touched several of these points, in talking about the entities we usually refer to as “Taiwan” (the People’s Republic of China, HQ in Taipei) and “China” (the People’s Republic of China, HQ in Beijing):

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Posted 25 December 2016 - 05:27 PM

Video from operations on China's 1st aircraft carrier. China purchased the hull from The Ukraine and then fitted it out. It's a smallish carrier and even the Chinese admit that it's mainly for training and testing carrier operations while they build their own larger operational carriers which they are currently doing.

http://www.miaopai.c...tA-a8lZoA__.htm
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Posted 26 December 2016 - 01:47 PM

View PostFCP Bob, on 25 December 2016 - 05:27 PM, said:

Video from operations on China's 1st aircraft carrier. China purchased the hull from The Ukraine and then fitted it out. It's a smallish carrier and even the Chinese admit that it's mainly for training and testing carrier operations while they build their own larger operational carriers which they are currently doing.

http://www.miaopai.c...tA-a8lZoA__.htm

The interesting thing about China is that they bring to any future conflicts what we brought to the 2nd world war- the ability to produce positively crazy amounts of war materials. Nobody was superior to Germany strategically or technologically, but we had a nearly unlimited production base which overwhelmed the master race.

That now belongs to China. If we ever went at it with them, it would go nuclear very, very quickly (probably immediately) as we could never hope to win a protracted war against them.

If you look at the major wars throughout history, very rarely have they been lost by way of a single strategic blunder (although Hitler and Russia comes close). Its usually just attrition and whoever has the most resources for the longest.
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Posted 08 January 2017 - 01:57 PM

Ya but that's Taiwan, the "totally not China guys".
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 02:13 AM

It sounds like some of the adults had Trump's ear for a few minutes anyway.


Trump backs ‘One China’ policy in first presidential call with Xi


Pledge to abide by protocol of recognising Beijing not Taipei set to ease US-China tensions

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Posted 10 February 2017 - 03:03 PM

Trump entered a discussion with the counter-party who now wanted something from him.

This is what winners do. This is something keenly considered by people who make deals for a living.

Now, what did Trump get in exchange for that? Was it something concrete? Was it a pledge of 'goodwill and other considerations' on other matters?

While Trump is mostly a lunatic, it will be very interesting to see how much change an actual dealmaker can effect in 4 years of the Presidency. It's potentially yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 04:04 PM

View PostScrim, on 10 February 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

Trump entered a discussion with the counter-party who now wanted something from him.

This is what winners do. This is something keenly considered by people who make deals for a living.

Now, what did Trump get in exchange for that? Was it something concrete? Was it a pledge of 'goodwill and other considerations' on other matters?

While Trump is mostly a lunatic, it will be very interesting to see how much change an actual dealmaker can effect in 4 years of the Presidency. It's potentially yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge.

LOL, give me a break you don't believe this.

Here's what happened.

Pro Independance elements in Taiwan spend huge money on lobbying in Washington and they got people close to Trump to be "tough" on China and bring up the "One China" issue which of course Trump had zero idea how much it matters to the Chinese.

China as anybody with any understanding of China reacted as expected with alarmist threatening statements from semi-official sources and firm statements from official ones.

Trump does his phone calls with important World leaders round but China's Xi refuses to speak to Trump as long as there is any question about the "One China" issue which is a great strategy and it works. Xi forces Trump to issue a statement that the US supports the "One China" policy as the price for the phone call.

So to sum it up Trump gave Xi a Yuge win and was forced to lose in a situation where nothing has actually changed vis a vis American policy.

You way overestimate the "deals" that Trump has made in his business career. The deals that government leaders make are far more complex than those of a real estate developer. You've accused me of overestimating the significance of academics and their expertise but you seem to be blinded by Trump's supposed business skills and how those will transfer into governing. He certainly is showing that the management skills he has from running a pretty simple family business are lacking when it comes to managing the Executive Branch.
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 04:10 PM

Capital Economics ‏@CapEconChina 8h8 hours ago
3 weeks in, China's worries over Trump (45% tariff, "One China") have diminished & its wishes have come true (TPP)
https://www.capitale...ver-trump-fade/
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 09:37 PM

View PostFCP Bob, on 10 February 2017 - 04:04 PM, said:

You way overestimate the "deals" that Trump has made in his business career. The deals that government leaders make are far more complex than those of a real estate developer. You've accused me of overestimating the significance of academics and their expertise but you seem to be blinded by Trump's supposed business skills and how those will transfer into governing. He certainly is showing that the management skills he has from running a pretty simple family business are lacking when it comes to managing the Executive Branch.

You don't 'overestimate academics' as you do blindly refer to them to back-fill some preexisting belief you have.
It's the old | Preexisting Belief > Find Something To Support It > SEE, I'M RIGHT! | formula which at no time ever reconciles itself against anything critical, logical scrutiny, etc meaning you can always persuade yourself that your preexisting beliefs are correct if someone out there who appears credible agrees. Once you get into beliefs that break hard upon camp lines, you can always cite all sorts of entities from 'your camp' who likewise agree without ever bothering to articulate your beliefs in the face of logical criticism.

If you want to believe the earth is 7000 years old, you can always cite Harvard educated PhD geologist Kurt Wise as someone who agrees and is certainly more credentialed on geology than anyone who might disagree, but does that prove you're right? Or does it prove that academia can be an endless loop where anything can be rationalized, supported or otherwise theorized as correct and is full of a lot of people who are routinely wrong?

Your core thesis is TRUMP, BAD! so you wind up doing what outlets like CNN and the like have been doing every day for the past few months- whatever he does anything, you claim it's all wrong and obviously, that's true because here, here's an article in the New York Times with someone somewhere who says so AND HE IS A WORLD RENOWNED 'ONOMIST SO I'D SAY THAT SETTLES IT!

Your arguments are flawless examples of mindless appeal to authority, or, an exercise in how people consigned to information or ideological ghettos can always rationalize their own bullshit.

Like, your belittling Trump's business acumen, because BUSINESS DEALS ARE SIMPLE BUT GOVERNMENT, THAT'S, LIKE, COMPLICATED! ... which is reaching truly astonishing levels of ideologue'itis. Or that Trump's business interests under the Trump Orginization were "simple".

https://en.wikipedia...mp_Organization

Literal LOL at that one.
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Posted 10 February 2017 - 10:22 PM

They used to say George Bush was an idiot because of his cadence.

He only got to fly the F-102 because his daddy pulled some strings.

And the F-102 was an easy jet to fly.

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Regardless, the F-102 was still far more dangerous to fly than today's combat aircraft. Compared to the F-102's lifetime accident rate of 13.69, today's planes generally average around 4 mishaps per 100,000 hours. For example, compare the F-16 at 4.14, the F-15 at 2.47, the F-117 at 4.07, the S-3 at 2.6, and the F-18 at 4.9.

Even the Marine Corps' AV-8B, regarded as the most dangerous aircraft in US service today, has a lifetime accident rate of only 11.44 mishaps per 100,000 flight hours.

The F-102 claimed the lives of many pilots, including a number stationed at Ellington during Bush's tenure. Of the 875 F-102A production models that entered service, 259 were lost in accidents that killed 70 Air Force and ANG pilots.


Probably got lucky, you know with the easy flight characteristics of a plane flying mach 1.25.


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