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#221 Brianandthetube

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:00 PM

For aspiring young guns to the game, I haven't really played in any big tournaments or anywhere besides among my friends for small cash games. What's your advice on a good way to build up a bankroll? If for casino wise, in the Chicagoland-Minnesota area.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

View Postsalmonater, on Tuesday, March 27th, 2012, 11:20 PM, said:

It seem that most of the younger player don't tip after tourny wins. Even some.of the biggest buy-ins they get huge scores and no tip.This never happened a few years ago. R the players now expecting to treated like rock stars? Are they unhappy with staff? Or just really cheep. Buy the way I don't deal or work on the floor.. thanks
don't want to derail but said I'd give my 0.02. I think a lot of pros/players today just realise the margins are a lot smaller (maybe they litereally are smaller today, because the edge in games are smaller) and can't afford to give away 4 or 5 percent of a tourney win without thinking. Reasons like bad staff, 'they already take x% anyway' are probably big ones too. Bad staff is personally a big one and I feel that should be the most influential reason for how much people tip. If the dealers are generally good quality and the floor staff are helpful, friendly and (most importantly) competent, I'll usually tip bigger. If the tourney is taking any more than 10% from the prizepool, I will probably leave nothing more than a token tip, or possibly no tip at all. For games of <1k, 10% is a fair reg and if the staff are generally competent, I think a tip of 1-2% is reasonable.
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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:17 PM

Jam, all the time I've been here and saw that picture in your signature, not once until now, did I see the wad of benjamins under Ivey's chair. Wow...Anyway, my question to Daniel:As a pro who makes money off less skilled players, have you ever felt morally obligated to educate fish who play way outside their means?By this, I don't mean a player who is necessarily playing outside of their normal bankroll management if they have it, but I'm talking about the guy who compulsively plays on his rent money/money he needs to live off of but has no chance of winning. Not even educating them on the game, but even just pulling them aside and telling them to seek help.


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:33 PM

Since you said nothing is off limits, who was the girl in the threesome?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:38 AM

Daniel, do you have ant cool stories or memories of playing poker with Stu Unger? Did you know him very well???

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:24 AM

Hey Daniel, have you ever wanted to tell (or have told) Ivey, Dwan (in NL) or any other players that stare you down in a hand like a comatose, drunken zombie, regardless of the game, (well, I know you think Dwann isn't that great at the limit games, so I guess I mean Ivey or anyone else who you play big in the limit games) "to make your ****in move already, bro"

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:54 AM

View Postsalmonater, on Tuesday, March 27th, 2012, 6:20 PM, said:

It seem that most of the younger player don't tip after tourny wins. Even some.of the biggest buy-ins they get huge scores and no tip.This never happened a few years ago. R the players now expecting to treated like rock stars? Are they unhappy with staff? Or just really cheep. Buy the way I don't deal or work on the floor.. thanks
Having talked to two different dealers (sick sample, I know), both have said that tips for tournaments aren't really a big deal since so much is getting taken out and there's not always that much transparency. I've still tipped a small amount when I've made scores, but I don't think it's nearly as strongly encouraged as before.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

View PostCobaltBlue, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 2:54 AM, said:

Having talked to two different dealers (sick sample, I know), both have said that tips for tournaments aren't really a big deal since so much is getting taken out and there's not always that much transparency. I've still tipped a small amount when I've made scores, but I don't think it's nearly as strongly encouraged as before.
I agree with you completely. I know a couple of guys who have dealt the WSOP and the WSOP Circuit and they said that the tips really don't make up a great deal of their pay. That being said, the juice being paid as well as the standard 3% being deducted from prize pools does not lend itself to the players tipping when the tournament is over. For example, I played a tournament at the Goldstrike in Tunica last weekend where the buy in was $300 +$40 with a $10 dealer toke. So if you count the toke as part of the entry since it is not going to the prize pool you are paying 16% juice before the 3% is taken out of the prize pool. This is on top of the fact that at the larger field tourney now they are flattening out the pay scale in hope of making the nits feel better about min cashing.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:39 AM

View Postpoker_tim, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 11:54 AM, said:

now they are flattening out the pay scale in hope of making the nits feel better about min cashing.
Is that known as 'The Chainsaw Effect"
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:43 AM

Daniel,What is "The Chainsaw Effect"?
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 08:50 AM

Have you ever been interested in developing strategies to beat various financial markets? Why do you like Anna Faris so much? :club:

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 10:24 AM

View PostSnake Plissken, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 12:50 PM, said:

Have you ever been interested in developing strategies to beat various financial markets? Why do you like Anna Faris so much? :club:
Snake Plissken? I thought you were dead.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:29 PM

View PostMercury69, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 8:24 PM, said:

Snake Plissken? I thought you were dead.
Oh, not dead. Alive as a man can be. Exhausted and physically raped by alcohol and terrible finance since black friday. But I'm alive, I'm alive.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 01:37 PM

View PostBalloon guy, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 9:43 AM, said:

Daniel,What is "The Chainsaw Effect"?
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:13 PM

View Postsalmonater, on Tuesday, March 27th, 2012, 3:20 PM, said:

It seem that most of the younger player don't tip after tourny wins. Even some.of the biggest buy-ins they get huge scores and no tip.This never happened a few years ago. R the players now expecting to treated like rock stars? Are they unhappy with staff? Or just really cheep. Buy the way I don't deal or work on the floor.. thanks
Well, because money is usually taken out of the prize pool as prepaid tips to the dealers and tipping more is optional and not required. It's a personal choice.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:15 PM

View PostSnake Plissken, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 2:29 PM, said:

Oh, not dead. Alive as a man can be. Exhausted and physically raped by alcohol and terrible finance since black friday. But I'm alive, I'm alive.
I feel like your signature deserves a spot in next week's Weekly Rant episode
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

View Postrasmer, on Tuesday, March 27th, 2012, 3:53 PM, said:

What is your view of Erik Seidel as a person ?On your FTP scumbag rants you never mention Ivey, is that because he is your friend or you seriously think he is totally clean ? Most of the poker world would disagree with that.
The Ivey hate truly boggles my mind. Anyone who knows this guy knows he didn't have the first clue what was going on. Here is a guy, great poker player, but not interested in any of that crap. He has a bevvy of assistants, doesn't answer phone calls or texts, despite having several phones, loses his phones regularly. Up until a few years ago he didn't know how to use e-mail, before that, he didn't know how to turn on a computer, but once it was on, he sure knew how to beat the crap out of anyone who chose to play online poker against him. Why does anyone differentiate Ivey from the rest of team FTP? Cause he was the best? Cause he was used in ads? Cause he was black? I don't get it! He wasn't on the board of directors and didn't care much at all what happened with daily operations. He was too busy either flying around the country hustling craps, or busting bankrolls online and at the Bellagio. Was it because he chose to sue FTP? Wouldn't that decision, along with his statement tell you that he was NOT happy with the board and the decisions they were making? Shouldn't that separate him from the mess conducted by those at fault? The reasons for his lawsuit were legitimate. Those idiots called his bluff, and just like he would at the poker table, he showed them the nuts and they cowered. As for Erik Seidel, we aren't friends and never really have been. I don't think he is shady in the least, we just rub each other the wrong way. Annie Duke is a good friend of his, and I can't say that I have a good relationship with anyone that chooses to be good friends with that woman.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:30 PM

View PostI_fold08, on Tuesday, March 27th, 2012, 8:33 PM, said:

Since you said nothing is off limits, who was the girl in the threesome?
"The girl?" Which one? :-) I kid, I kid...
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:33 PM

View Postbrent_81, on Wednesday, March 28th, 2012, 1:38 AM, said:

Daniel, do you have ant cool stories or memories of playing poker with Stu Unger? Did you know him very well???
I played with him at Bellagio two weeks before he died for the first, and only time. He looked bad, very thin, frail, but seemed to be interested in fixing his life. A priest actually came in to see him that day. He played fast and aggressive and went broke several times punting it away, but I had a blast playing with him, although I had the worst seat in the house, he was seated to my direct left.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:49 PM

Daniel -re: golf betsI was once told a story from someone that lived with Nick Rainey that went like this...Nick camped out at the golf course the night before a match w/ you & Christian so he could bribe a groundskeeper to move the tees back on a certain hole where you had to clear a water hazard; moving the tee box to where it would be very difficult for you to clear the hazard but Nick/Patrik easily could.What do you think the odds are this actually happened/can you ever think of a specific hole where it did?




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