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[FCP Bob]

An interesting new Live Tournament will be played in Dublin Ireland on April 5th which will show all the players hole cards live in real time online.People watching will be able to bet on a whole number of different things.The players scheduled to play are: Daniel Negreanu - 11/2 Maria Ho - 10/1 Tobias Reinkemeier - 15/2 Marvin Rettenmaier - 8/1 Carlos Mortensen - 7/1 Eoghan O'Dea - 7/1 Faraz Jaka - 8/1 Dave Ulliott - 15/2 James Dempsey - 9/1 Phil Hellmuth - 13/2Here's the link to their website http://iserieslive.com/And to a press release with some of the details http://iserieslive.c...lease-final.pdfHere are some of the details:- 10 Player Winner Take All €10,000 buy-in- Betting will take place on PaddyPower which is the largest bookmaker in Ireland. They do not accept bets from either Canada or The US.- Player's hole cards will be shown in real time streamed over the internet- The players will be sequestered and will not be allowed to have any communications devices with them- The players as compensation will share in the revenue generated from the wagering at Paddy PowerExample of some of the wagers that will be offered:Bet On: Updated Odds to Win Winner of Next Hand Last-Longers Next Elimination Redder/Blacker Flop Pair on Flop Trips on Flop Straight on Flop Flush on Flop Straight Flush on Flop

[FCP Bob]

I'm not going to be able to make any bets but it still should be interesting to watch.In play sports betting is exploding and I think combining that trend with poker is a smart thing to try.

[DanielNegreanu]

Working on the vlog this week that will cover a lot of this stuff.

[Balloon guy]

Who's that guy?

[Jam-Fly]

how long are u planning on spending in Dublin Daniel? The atmosphere at the Irish Open is absolutely phenomenal, I'd be shocked if you weren't impressed with the buzz surrounding the festival.

[DanielNegreanu]

Jam-Fly, on Wednesday, March 21st, 2012, 6:18 PM, said:

how long are u planning on spending in Dublin Daniel? The atmosphere at the Irish Open is absolutely phenomenal, I'd be shocked if you weren't impressed with the buzz surrounding the festival.

Apri 2-10 also playing Irish Open

[Jam-Fly]

DanielNegreanu, on Thursday, March 22nd, 2012, 1:30 AM, said:

Apri 2-10 also playing Irish Open

since I'm the Irish guy at FCP and I have posts from like 5 years ago asking you to come to the Irish Open I hope you'll remember Jam-Fly when I start talking to you at the bar!Few tips to partake in Irish 'banter'. Call everyone a 'gowl' and then just inform them that you are 'only slagging'. Saying 'the bankers ruined this country [ie Ireland]' is sure to be received well by all. But most importantly, although not relevant to all Irish banter (it would be more of a younger age group familiar with this), anytime something inappropriate happens (it can be in any situation), you have to say 'THAT'S LIMERICK CITY!!!'. If you could manage to get that in at some stage I'd really appreciate it.

[thatpokerguy]

With all due respect to Daniel, have you ever thought of betting on yourself to be the first one out, and then try to be eliminated as quick as possible. I do understand that this is not very genuine in terms of poker ethics, but I guess you can win ten times more by doing that rather than winning the tournament...

[DanielNegreanu]

thatpokerguy, on Friday, March 23rd, 2012, 4:29 AM, said:

With all due respect to Daniel, have you ever thought of betting on yourself to be the first one out, and then try to be eliminated as quick as possible. I do understand that this is not very genuine in terms of poker ethics, but I guess you can win ten times more by doing that rather than winning the tournament...

A coupe things: 1) Max bet is $10002) Players who participate are not allowed to bet It doesn't make financial sense to try it. If a bet of more than $10k came in a player to be the first out, it would be very easy to detect a problem.

[coug2828]

DanielNegreanu, on Friday, March 23rd, 2012, 1:46 PM, said:

A coupe things: 1) Max bet is $10002) Players who participate are not allowed to bet It doesn't make financial sense to try it. If a bet of more than $10k came in a player to be the first out, it would be very easy to detect a problem.

couldn't you just give 10 people 1k a piece and have them bet it on you?

[Jam-Fly]

coug2828, on Saturday, March 24th, 2012, 1:46 AM, said:

couldn't you just give 10 people 1k a piece and have them bet it on you?

1) it's unethical2) if DN did this, and was found out, his reputation would be damaged. Why? See point 13) it's a -EV gamble when you factor in the possible repercussions of being found out4) it's too much effort for such a small return5) DN probably cares more about actually winning than profiting

[FCP Bob]

Pretty good column on betting on poker as a sport.http://www.pokerstra...on-Poker_57775/

[DanielNegreanu]

coug2828, on Friday, March 23rd, 2012, 6:46 PM, said:

couldn't you just give 10 people 1k a piece and have them bet it on you?

Then you'd break even? Why fly all the way out there to break even? More importantly, if 10 $1k bets to be first out come in on a person, then they bust in questionable fashion, it raises major suspicion.

[Jam-Fly]

DanielNegreanu, on Sunday, March 25th, 2012, 9:29 PM, said:

Then you'd break even? Why fly all the way out there to break even? More importantly, if 10 $1k bets to be first out come in on a person, then they bust in questionable fashion, it raises major suspicion.

10 people wagering $1k each at 10-1 means $10k profit per person. 10 people at $10k profit each = $100k profit. Winning the tournament = $90k profit. coug2828 could be onto something...

[DanielNegreanu]

Jam-Fly, on Sunday, March 25th, 2012, 8:34 PM, said:

10 people wagering $1k each at 10-1 means $10k profit per person. 10 people at $10k profit each = $100k profit. Winning the tournament = $90k profit. coug2828 could be onto something...

No, because:All hands are shown. If a guy busts on the first hand in a bizarre fashion it would be scrutinized and any peculiar transactions will get the person CAUGHT which just isn't worth it. 10 $1000 bets on first one out is pretty unlucky to come from 10 different people.

[Jam-Fly]

DanielNegreanu, on Tuesday, March 27th, 2012, 9:11 AM, said:

No, because:All hands are shown. If a guy busts on the first hand in a bizarre fashion it would be scrutinized and any peculiar transactions will get the person CAUGHT which just isn't worth it. 10 $1000 bets on first one out is pretty unlucky to come from 10 different people.

Daniel, I'm very aware about how stupid an idea this actually is. My serious response was this:

Jam-Fly, on Saturday, March 24th, 2012, 7:44 AM, said:

1) it's unethical2) if DN did this, and was found out, his reputation would be damaged. Why? See point 13) it's a -EV gamble when you factor in the possible repercussions of being found out4) it's too much effort for such a small return5) DN probably cares more about actually winning than profiting

My last response was sarcastic

[thatpokerguy]

DanielNegreanu, on Friday, March 23rd, 2012, 10:46 PM, said:

A coupe things: 1) Max bet is $10002) Players who participate are not allowed to bet It doesn't make financial sense to try it. If a bet of more than $10k came in a player to be the first out, it would be very easy to detect a problem.

Thank you very much for reply DanielI will go for a $800 bet on Daniel vs Hellmuth! Go Daniel.

[FCP Bob]

Tomorrow is when the first event will be played and here's a look at "The Dubling Ten"http://iserieslive.c...the-dublin-ten/

[DanielNegreanu]

FCP Bob, on Wednesday, April 4th, 2012, 1:47 AM, said:

Tomorrow is when the first event will be played and here's a look at "The Dubling Ten"http://iserieslive.c...the-dublin-ten/

The Dubling Ten or the Dublin Ten?

[FCP Bob]

DanielNegreanu, on Thursday, April 5th, 2012, 6:03 AM, said:

The Dubling Ten or the Dublin Ten?

Well I'm sure that one of the Dublin Ten will double at some point.