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[Balloon guy]

timwakefield, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 4:25 AM, said:

Why yes, yes you have. And I will say again that you're literally trying to agree with Hitler. It's possibly the single most obtuse argument against evolution that anyone ever makes, which is saying a mountain.Multiple choice question:Hitler was...A] An insane genocidal dictator who used any and all false excuses to justify and garner support for his campaign of genocide.B] A studious and respected scientist knowledgeable in the field of evolutionary biology.I shouldn't even bother responding to your Hitler garbage because I honestly hope that you're trolling, and it's hard to believe that you aren't.

Better:Hitler's mission to rid the world of people less advanced to stop them polluting the gene pool while forcing the world to accept the more advanced Aryan race was...A] A Christian doctrineB] A doctrine eerily similar to the current fad pseudo-science pushed as fact by people who can't draw a simple flow chart of life forms after the fact?btw speedz, I will be bookmarking this one for you

[Balloon guy]

fighter, on Thursday, February 16th, 2012, 10:19 PM, said:

This seems kind of racist. Matthew 15:22-28

I think it's more sexists...

[Balloon guy]

And something for this Sunday morning:

[brvheart]

fighter, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 1:19 AM, said:

This seems kind of racist.

It's not. In fact, it's the opposite of that, since he, you know, healed her and stuff.

[brvheart]

bat, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 10:48 AM, said:

Et tu, Brute? Not a very Christian statement at all. But thanks.

Christians are required to read everyone's posts now?

[brvheart]

BigDMcGee, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 9:26 PM, said:

yeah.. actions like.. occupying land the jews wanted... for example.. Deuteronomy.. I mean, I'm sure you interpret that is they didn't worship god so they deserved to be "destroyed totally", so you can call it religious or action based, but if you slaughtered every hindu in america there would a word for that, and it would be genocide. The only difference between serbs and croats is one is catholic and the other eastern orthodox. They are the same ethnically, speak the same language ( though they use different alphabets) and have the same genetic make up. And when they slaughtered each other, it was called "ethnic cleansing".

Hindus aren't all the same race.

[BaseJester]

brvheart, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 9:36 AM, said:

It's not. In fact, it's the opposite of that, since he, you know, healed her and stuff.

What do you think was Jesus' purpose in referring to her as a dog in his metaphor?

[timwakefield]

Balloon guy, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 9:27 AM, said:

B] A doctrine eerily similar to the current fad pseudo-science pushed as fact by people who can't draw a simple flow chart of life forms after the fact?

"I won't believe you until you can draw a simple flowchart describing thousands and thousands of different species-groups over the last hundreds of millions of years, and it had better be simple! Oh and they're almost all dead and only extremely rarely do they fossilize, that should obviously make it easier! I refuse to understand it until you make it simpler!"

[fighter]

brvheart, on Monday, February 20th, 2012, 12:36 AM, said:

It's not. In fact, it's the opposite of that, since he, you know, healed her and stuff.

A black woman walks into a white hospital in South Africa during Apartheid. Upon seeing a white doctor, she screams for his help as she needs medication. The white doctor replies, "I am here to help white people. It is not right to take this perfectly good medicine and waste it on you dogs"“Yes it is, doctor,” she said. “Even dogs need to visit the vet.”Then the white doctor smiled at her and replied, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.”You see, this doctor wasn't racist. In fact, it's the opposite of that, since he, you know, healed her and stuff.

[speedz99]

Balloon guy, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 7:27 AM, said:

Hitler's mission to rid the world of people less advanced to stop them polluting the gene pool while forcing the world to accept the more advanced Aryan race was...A] A Christian doctrineB] A doctrine eerily similar to the current fad pseudo-science pushed as fact by people who can't draw a simple flow chart of life forms after the fact?

Haha, yes, bookmark it. I can always use the reminder that Hitler was motivated by science. Certainly not motivated by hatred, using science as an excuse to feed his craziness. Certainly not that.

timwakefield, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 11:42 AM, said:

"I won't believe you until you can draw a simple flowchart describing thousands and thousands of different species-groups over the last hundreds of millions of years, and it had better be simple! Oh and they're almost all dead and only extremely rarely do they fossilize, that should obviously make it easier! I refuse to understand it until you make it simpler!"

Dude, that paragraph is way too long. I refuse to read and attempt to understand what you wrote, so until you simplify it for me I shall assume that it is incorrect. And blasphemous!

[SuitedAces21]

fighter is bringing some serious heat in here lately.

[vbnautilus]

Balloon guy, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 7:27 AM, said:

Better:Hitler's mission to rid the world of people less advanced to stop them polluting the gene pool while forcing the world to accept the more advanced Aryan race was...A] A Christian doctrineB] A doctrine eerily similar to the current fad pseudo-science pushed as fact by people who can't draw a simple flow chart of life forms after the fact?btw speedz, I will be bookmarking this one for you

Certainly closer to A than to B.

[bat]

brvheart, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 7:40 AM, said:

Christians are required to read everyone's posts now?

Matthew 7:12 my friend.

vbnautilus, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 1:15 PM, said:

Not bad!

thanks

vbnautilus, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 1:15 PM, said:

Are you not a christian? Seems like you are.

I'll let you know in the afterlife.

vbnautilus, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 1:15 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure he has. But why should people not be ridiculed for their ridiculous beliefs? If someone believes that the earth is flat we can't belittle their beliefs? If someone believes that a team of little elves lives inside a tree making cookies, that person should expect some ridicule. Not all beliefs are worthy of respect.

I think Dawkins only retaliates when he's placed under a harsh religious based microscope, which is quite often. If the people questioning him are cordial he usually remains that way as well. It's ignorance of the rule of respect (see brvheart response above) towards people that the likes of Bill O'Reilly, Bill Maher and the majority of the media do not adhere to, usually in lieu of a ratings drop, that create the tension that causes him to respond in that manner. You know what beliefs I'd like to see these guys seek out, directly face and disrespect? Those people that say that women are unequal and can be physically punished for simple disobediences such as showing their face in public. Those that say they want to murder you and me because we live in a ''free'' society. I don't remember seeing Maher travel to the middle east poking fun of some extremist muslim beliefs in his movie about the crazy religions of the world. I mean come on, we send our brave men and women abroad to fight for freedoms like the one that allows this assclown to make millions of dollars poking fun of his own people. We live in an f'd up society.

vbnautilus, on Friday, February 17th, 2012, 1:15 PM, said:

I don't know anyone who thinks there is a conflict between "spirituality" and evolution. Why would you think that there was? There is, however, a direct conflict between the theory of evolution and the account of biological origins laid out in the bible (aka creationism). I don't share your desire to be in agreement with everyone. Some accounts of reality are more accurate than others. Evolution and creationism are two conflicting accounts on the development of life on this planet; they cannot both be correct unless you are watering down creationism to the point where it says virtually nothing about the development of life over the course of time.

I didn't say a conflict between spirituality and evolution. I said spirituality and science. ANd of course there is a conflict, however I'm saying that they can both exist together in harmony. And yes, both evolution and creation have conflicting data supporting one another, but that's because neither has concrete evidence. They both have their loop holes and red herring trails. But there's probably a purpose behind that. I'm sure the Big Guy in the sky doesn't need to get a patent from you for creating life. Just because you wouldn't write down your award winning chilli recipe and give it to everyone doesn't mean we can't speculate what's in it.

[Balloon guy]

timwakefield, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 10:42 AM, said:

"I won't believe you until you can draw a simple flowchart describing thousands and thousands of different species-groups over the last hundreds of millions of years, and it had better be simple! Oh and they're almost all dead and only extremely rarely do they fossilize, that should obviously make it easier! I refuse to understand it until you make it simpler!"

By simple I meant for you, since the reailty is you guys have no clue what happened, how a non-bird became a bird, how a water dweller developed hooves etcc.I asked before for a flowchart showing how a fully formed single cell organism developed in to any single mammal known today. No need to show every branching offshoot, no need to explain why or how. Just show how a single cell organism morphed into a cow.Surely if you feel evolution is proved enough to force it down children's throats you must have a basic clarification how the process works.And there are millions of fossils, with more found every day. Please don't hide behind the 'we don't have enough data but that doesn't mean we don't know' defense.Cause that one has a glaring hole in it if you take a whole second to think about it.

[Balloon guy]

vbnautilus, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 9:02 PM, said:

Certainly closer to A than to B.

You can pretend that...but you know the real answer.

[Balloon guy]

speedz99, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 1:59 PM, said:

Haha, yes, bookmark it. I can always use the reminder that Hitler was motivated by science. Certainly not motivated by hatred, using science as an excuse to feed his craziness. Certainly not that.

Hitler was not motivated by hate. Are you sure we're talking about the same guy here? Adolph? Funny mustache? Liked tofu?

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Dude, that paragraph is way too long. I refuse to read and attempt to understand what you wrote, so until you simplify it for me I shall assume that it is incorrect. And blasphemous!

I love when you guys mock the idea of simple by missing out on what simple meant......It's like a lava flow of chocolate cascading down into a river of peanut butter all on a wafer of goodness.

[Balloon guy]

BaseJester, on Sunday, February 19th, 2012, 7:01 AM, said:

What do you think was Jesus' purpose in referring to her as a dog in his metaphor?

That His mission was to the Jews, but that He was forgiving enough to give it to the people the Jews thought least of?

[speedz99]

Balloon guy, on Monday, February 20th, 2012, 9:13 AM, said:

Hitler was not motivated by hate. Are you sure we're talking about the same guy here? Adolph? Funny mustache? Liked tofu?

Same guy. Chronic flatulence.

Balloon guy, on Monday, February 20th, 2012, 9:13 AM, said:

I love when you guys mock the idea of simple by missing out on what simple meant......

We know how you mean it, but you're missing out on the fact that it's essentially the same definition. Tomato potato.

[timwakefield]

Balloon guy, on Monday, February 20th, 2012, 12:10 PM, said:

I asked before for a flowchart showing how a fully formed single cell organism developed in to any single mammal known today. No need to show every branching offshoot, no need to explain why or how. Just show how a single cell organism morphed into a cow.

Again you're asking for one of the most complex and involved processes known to science to be explained as if it were simple arithmetic. A "flowchart" describing hundreds of millions of years of evolution ending in any specific mammal would be ludicrously complicated. OH WAIT HERE IT IS

[speedz99]

Haha. BUT YOU WEREN'T THERE!!!